Plant ID forum: Brazilian Aroid.

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Name: Myriam
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bonitin
Mar 20, 2017 3:04 AM CST
I found this one in the deep shade in dense forest vegetation. It called attention with its paleness. My first thought was some kind of Arisaema, but Brazil has none recorded of this genus.
So maybe it is a close relative?
I missed it in bloom, but it had a seed pod. There was only one single leaf on a thin stalk of about 50cm tall.
Not sure if the paleness is a natural variegation of the species..



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Silversurfer
Mar 20, 2017 5:22 AM CST
Maybe Dracontium sp.

https://www.revolvy.com/main/i...
Name: Myriam
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bonitin
Mar 20, 2017 6:45 AM CST
I am not sure, but i think I've also looked for Dracontium in the 'Flora do Brasil', the site is down now, probably for maintenance, that often happens, will check later.
Thanks!
Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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eclayne
Mar 20, 2017 8:55 AM CST

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Dracontium was my thought as well. Near Rio?
Evan
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Silversurfer
Mar 20, 2017 9:13 AM CST
bonitin said:I am not sure, but i think I've also looked for Dracontium in the 'Flora do Brasil', the site is down now, probably for maintenance, that often happens, will check later.
Thanks!


The link I gave above lists 24 several sp ...some come from Brazil.
It take a while for the link to open fully.

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Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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bonitin
Mar 20, 2017 11:18 PM CST
yes Evan, in the Rio de Janeiro State.

Sorry Silversurfer, somehow overlooked sps present in Brazil on your link.
I had been looking for Dracunculus (not present in Brazil) instead of Dracontium.
The site is up again.There are two species in the immediate neighbouring states:
D. bogneri and D. polyphyllum. Plants do not always respect state borders. No documentation on the first, even not a herbarium species, the later no match and in such bad state by bug damage.
http://floradobrasil.jbrj.gov....
What other genera could there be to check..
Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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eclayne
Mar 21, 2017 3:58 PM CST

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I've been told this is Asterostigma. Several are native to Rio but photos and descriptions are scarce.
Evan
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Mar 22, 2017 5:21 PM CST

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Asterostigma concinnum! = Asterostigma lividum

Did you collect seeds or a tuber Myriam? It's stunning!!
Evan
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Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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bonitin
Mar 23, 2017 12:33 AM CST
Great Evan!
No I didn't collect the tuber though I have been thinking of it. It was the first time I met one, so thought it might be rare and maybe even endangered.
I know the exact location and when I have the luck to go back next winter there might be babies... and now that I know the plant I might encounter more of them.
If it hadn't be so pale it easily could have escaped my attention.
Thank You!

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