Ask a Question forum: Low temp for Ponytail palm ?

Views: 712, Replies: 19 » Jump to the end
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
Image
Philipwonel
Mar 22, 2017 3:13 PM CST
Specs. Say it can be planted outside in zone 9 to 11.
Zones 8 and 9 go right threw middle of town.
My back yard is pretty well protected.
Think i could plant it in ground ?
Anything i say, could be misrepresented, or wrong.
[Last edited by Philipwonel - Mar 23, 2017 8:40 AM (+)]
Give a thumbs up | Quote | Post #1395368 (1)
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
Opp, AL 🌵🌷⚘🌹🌻 (Zone 8b)
Houseplants Organic Gardener Composter Region: Gulf Coast Miniature Gardening Native Plants and Wildflowers
Tropicals Butterflies Garden Sages Cactus and Succulents Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Image
purpleinopp
Mar 22, 2017 4:16 PM CST
Do you see any others in the area?
👀😁😂 - SMILE! -☺😎☻☮👌✌∞☯🐣🐦🐔🐝🍯🐾
The less I interfere, the more balance mother nature provides.
👒🎄👣🏡🍃🍂🌾🌿🍁❦❧ 🍃🍁🍂🌾🌻🌸🌼🌹🌽❀☀🌺
☕👓 The only way to succeed is to try.
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
Not all who wander are lost
Garden Sages Plant Identifier
Image
DaisyI
Mar 22, 2017 6:58 PM CST
So what is your question? You don't understand how a lower zone can be sandwiched between two higher zones? You want to plant a Pony Tail Palm outside because you live NEAR the right zone? Confused

I kept mine outside in the summer in Zone 8 but brought it into a temperate greenhouse (kept it above freezing) in the winter.
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and proclaiming...."WOW What a Ride!!" -Mark Frost

Webmaster: osnnv.org
[Last edited by DaisyI - Mar 22, 2017 7:01 PM (+)]
Give a thumbs up | Quote | Post #1395509 (3)
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
Always count your blessings in life
Cat Lover Houseplants Plays in the sandbox Region: California Orchids Plant Lover: Loves 'em all!
Composter Cactus and Succulents Dragonflies Hummingbirder Amaryllis Container Gardener
Image
tarev
Mar 22, 2017 7:21 PM CST
My ponytail palm stays outdoors year round and our winter temps has gone down at times between 20F to 35F. Plus with the rains too. It endured quite well actually. I guess it is matured enough to handle it.
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
Image
Philipwonel
Mar 23, 2017 9:09 AM CST
Thanks @tarev 😁😁😁
Lows hear are same as yours. My back yard is pretty well protected. In my life, ownce it got to 18 degrees, woes to the people that didnt have pipes protected, pipes all over town busted. 😬 Upper 20s is usually the coldest, that usually dont last an extended time.
Mine is 3 1/2 " dia. And 14" tall. Top was cut off, and has 3 branches coming off. I think i will let it get bigger before i plant it in ground. How big a pot you think i should put it in ???
Anything i say, could be misrepresented, or wrong.
[Last edited by Philipwonel - Mar 23, 2017 9:10 AM (+)]
Give a thumbs up | Quote | Post #1395831 (5)
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
Always count your blessings in life
Cat Lover Houseplants Plays in the sandbox Region: California Orchids Plant Lover: Loves 'em all!
Composter Cactus and Succulents Dragonflies Hummingbirder Amaryllis Container Gardener
Image
tarev
Mar 23, 2017 9:40 AM CST
Hi Philip, maybe try to get a container that is about 2 inches wider and not too deep. I keep mine in a shallower container, in consideration of the winter rains, for faster drainage. They do grow so slow.

Here is mine:
Thumb of 2017-03-23/tarev/e6cd07 Thumb of 2017-03-23/tarev/7ac176

Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
Image
Philipwonel
Mar 23, 2017 10:09 AM CST
@tarev ! Thank you again 😎😎😎
Excellent plant tarev !!!
Whats dia of yours and how old ?
Also...how old you think mine is, at
3 1/2 inch dia ?
I cant wait...I cant wait !!! nodding
😎😎😎
Anything i say, could be misrepresented, or wrong.
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
Always count your blessings in life
Cat Lover Houseplants Plays in the sandbox Region: California Orchids Plant Lover: Loves 'em all!
Composter Cactus and Succulents Dragonflies Hummingbirder Amaryllis Container Gardener
Image
tarev
Mar 23, 2017 10:24 AM CST
Had to check my file photos, I got this plant around late summer of 2010 from our local Walmart.

I measured my container, it is 9 inches diameter and 5 inches deep.

If you can find 5 inches or 6 inches diameter, should be good. Just got to make your media as well draining as you can. It can stay there for years. I have seen bigger specimens of this plant, always gets bigger once planted in ground. I love this plant, as it handles our winter conditions well, and more importantly, it endures our long, dry and hot weather when it comes, one plant I am not at all worried watering-wise. For my plant I have no plans to plant it in ground, so it will be living in a container and adjust container size as needed.
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
Image
Philipwonel
Mar 23, 2017 12:07 PM CST
Hears pic of mine with golden barrow. I got palm just other day. At walmart too. I'll be an official senior, by time mine gets size of yours. So pot is where he will stay. Boy ! Whew ! Talk about slow grower. Blinking
I got him and a couple others, that im gonna get out of that juncky soil they come in as soon as it warms up some, probably in next week.
Thumbs up for the help !!!
😎😎😎
Thumb of 2017-03-23/Philipwonel/df751c

Anything i say, could be misrepresented, or wrong.
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
Always count your blessings in life
Cat Lover Houseplants Plays in the sandbox Region: California Orchids Plant Lover: Loves 'em all!
Composter Cactus and Succulents Dragonflies Hummingbirder Amaryllis Container Gardener
Image
tarev
Mar 23, 2017 3:12 PM CST
Your ponytail looks good Philip! Just acclimate slowly to direct sun, I see the leaves are still in a deep green color, so it must have been growing in more shade before. I think it can also still stay in that container it currently has as long as it has drainage holes.

Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
Image
Philipwonel
Mar 23, 2017 6:53 PM CST
@tarev
Yes indeed Tarev !
I'm going to change the ugly looking soil though, to my own blend of equal parts potting soil and washed sand. Besides that !😮! Someone grabed it by its handle (trunk!) and up rooted it. Dumb bunnies #👺#

Now !😕! Thinking about it 😕
I really should of got it for half-off ! D'Oh! !!!
😎😎😎
Anything i say, could be misrepresented, or wrong.
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
Always count your blessings in life
Cat Lover Houseplants Plays in the sandbox Region: California Orchids Plant Lover: Loves 'em all!
Composter Cactus and Succulents Dragonflies Hummingbirder Amaryllis Container Gardener
Image
tarev
Mar 23, 2017 7:31 PM CST
Aww poor plant! Okay have fun repotting!
Name: Baja
Baja California (Zone 11b)
Cactus and Succulents Seed Starter Foliage Fan Xeriscape Container Gardener Bromeliad
Hummingbirder Native Plants and Wildflowers Garden Photography Region: Mexico Plant Identifier Forum moderator
Image
Baja_Costero
Mar 23, 2017 8:09 PM CST
Yes, have fun Philip!

My reference book for these plants (by Mary and Gary Irish) says mature plants can survive down to about 20°F, and young plants should be protected at about 25°F.

Of course the shorter the freeze, the better. I would consider a plant under 3 feet as young, but probably what matters more is whether it has already had time to get used to the natural variation of your climate (which the Walmart plant most likely has not).

On the Arid Lands page for this plant, they mention their large plant only suffers leaf damage in the low 20s. They also mention the fact that these plants tolerate being root bound for extended periods of time. When you end up repotting one of these over the course of several years, you inevitably face the choice of giving it a little extra space around the root ball every once in a while or mostly leaving it alone (of course the easier option Smiling ).

But there's a difference between tolerating conditions and really thriving. The difference in growth rate may alone be enough to justify leaving your container plant potbound for a long time. Why grow a monster jungle plant if you're going to have to move it in every winter, right?
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
Image
Philipwonel
Mar 24, 2017 8:11 AM CST
Baja !!! Where you been buddy !
You and Tarev are lickety split on ....Humm 😕......This Entity !!! : we'll call : "ALL THINGS CATI AND SUCCULENTS !" Rolling on the floor laughing
Thank you for info and your input.😁 especially low temp.
He is going to stay in pot on patio with rest of my colection. With a little not much direct sun. You think i'll have to move him in summer to get more direct sun ?
😎😎😎
Anything i say, could be misrepresented, or wrong.
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
Always count your blessings in life
Cat Lover Houseplants Plays in the sandbox Region: California Orchids Plant Lover: Loves 'em all!
Composter Cactus and Succulents Dragonflies Hummingbirder Amaryllis Container Gardener
Image
tarev
Mar 24, 2017 8:54 AM CST
I would move them to give them some good sun later Philip. It loves the sun and heat. But do it gradually. Doing it now in Spring will help condition the plant while the sun is not that onerous yet.
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
Image
Philipwonel
Mar 24, 2017 9:19 AM CST
Thanks Tarve Thumbs up
I got the perfect place for him.... Right next to my in ground aloe vera. Then on the occasional time, not often, that i shoot some water to the aloe, i'll shoot a little water to the palm . Humm ??? I think he needs a pedestal??? A milk carton, for now. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
Thumbs up Thumbs up Thumbs up
😎😎😎
Anything i say, could be misrepresented, or wrong.
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
Always count your blessings in life
Cat Lover Houseplants Plays in the sandbox Region: California Orchids Plant Lover: Loves 'em all!
Composter Cactus and Succulents Dragonflies Hummingbirder Amaryllis Container Gardener
Image
tarev
Mar 24, 2017 9:23 AM CST
The best analogy I can give you how to grow your ponytail palm is like you are growing a cycad. It can take all the heat it can have and prefers to be on the dryside. Just occasional good watering, and leave it alone.
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
Image
Philipwonel
Mar 24, 2017 9:44 AM CST
Of course i'll check palm first.
My in ground aloe's get torchered in summer. Water maybe every 4 to 6 weeks. Sometimes i feel sorry for them , cause they look a little sad.
Just a minute or two of sprinkling with hose, preks em up.
Butt ! I'll be checking palm, so aloe may not suffer so much this year ! Hurray!
😎😎😎
Anything i say, could be misrepresented, or wrong.
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
Always count your blessings in life
Cat Lover Houseplants Plays in the sandbox Region: California Orchids Plant Lover: Loves 'em all!
Composter Cactus and Succulents Dragonflies Hummingbirder Amaryllis Container Gardener
Image
tarev
Mar 24, 2017 11:02 AM CST
Oh yes, our central valley heat is rather nasty really. Once those temps hit 95F and higher..it is survival of the fittest..the plants will just go semi-dormant and wait it out.

The thing with ponytail palm, it has a lot of moisture saved in its trunk..so it endures so well.
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
Image
Philipwonel
Mar 24, 2017 11:27 AM CST
Right Oh. Right Oh ! Thumbs up
Anything i say, could be misrepresented, or wrong.

« Garden.org Homepage
« Back to the top
« Forums List
« Ask a Question forum
Only the members of the Members group may reply to this thread.

Member Login:

Username:

Password:

[ Join now ]

Today's site banner is by bootandall and is called "Aphids on swan plant"