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GeraldineDullaway
Mar 23, 2017 10:10 AM CST
I planted Chelonia pink turtle in last year when in bloom. It has died back to nothing and I can't see a shoot. When can I expect to see a shoot or has it died. I am in south uk
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DaisyI
Mar 23, 2017 10:53 AM CST
Confused You planted a turtle??
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Tisha
Mar 23, 2017 11:32 AM CST
Good question. I`ve had them for years.They are so low maintenance I forgot `bout `em. Mine, also the pink, bloom in the fall so I think they come up a little later than the other plants.
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First guess I should go look at `em and see if they are still there. I didn`t clean that area last fall so the old is covering any possible new shoots, spring protection for that area I hope.
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DaisyI
Mar 23, 2017 11:38 AM CST
Oh, got it. Cleone is a genus of plants, Chelonia is a genus of turtles.
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Calif_Sue
Mar 23, 2017 12:26 PM CST

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Not Cleone, maybe Pink Turtlehead (Chelone lyonii)
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stone
Mar 23, 2017 12:53 PM CST
I used to have a patch of chelone growing as wildflowers in a ditch.
Seems they were always slow to come out of dormancy.
I hope you planted them in a rain garden type location.
Don't know how your gardens did last year in the UK, but over here..... Fierce drought action.
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Tisha
Mar 23, 2017 12:57 PM CST
Yes `chelone lyonii` grow to 3-4ft. (pink to rose-purple)
`chelone oblique` 2ft. (rose-pink)
And a white also; C.glabra , 2ft.
@GeraldineDollaway what zone are you in? This might help us to better answer your question as to when your turtles will make their springtime appearance.
They`re probably still there Crossing Fingers! just "shy" Hilarious!
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SunnyBorders
Mar 23, 2017 8:58 PM CST
Have had Chelone lyonii 'Hot Lips' growing In several locations for maybe ten years. I don't find it that vigorous.

Had species C. obliqua (red turtlehead, but sometimes also called pink turtlehead) in another garden. Found that one to be extremely vigorous. It was hemmed in by a wall behind and some of the clump had to be dug out each fall. Part of the reason for that vigour could have been the proximity of the plant to a (lawn) sprinkler system head. The C. lyonii nevertheless is watered (rain or lawn sprinkler) pretty regularly.

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Tisha
Mar 23, 2017 9:42 PM CST
I still haven`t looked at them. But yes, mine are in a moist area and shade. More shade than I thought.
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SunnyBorders
Mar 24, 2017 9:35 AM CST
Mine were/are in relatively sunny locations.

Got me thinking, Tisha: As said, I haven't found my two current clumps of Chelone lyonii to be very vigorous at all. I also don't think they grow to be as tall as some garden sites say they do. Perhaps a reason is their relatively sunny locations.

Do think they're a nice perennial, but I try to garden for a lot of perennial flower colour. Personally, I think our turtlehead can't match the colour contribution of say our primulas in spring, garden phlox in summer and asters in fall.
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Tisha
Mar 24, 2017 4:20 PM CST
@GeraldineDullaway
I looked today. Not breaking ground yet. I`m in zone5b. What zone are you in ?

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SunnyBorders
Mar 25, 2017 6:50 AM CST
As per you, Trish, 5b (changed a few years ago from 5a), but that's the Canadian one.

Weather's been quite unpleasant here through much of March with swings of quite cold temperature and some high winds. Besides the tips of most bulbs (do have snowdrops blooming), we're only seeing the "green-under-the snow" spring things and have recently been getting light coverings of snow.

Hope, however, we're finally soon about to turn the corner.

Hoping you're warmer!



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Tisha
Mar 25, 2017 11:02 AM CST
Moist woodland wildflower.
Flowers are small and unassuming. The foliage is a nice dark green. Good as a backdrop for your............
Years ago was given three BRITE azalea. In the spring I need sunglasses to look at `em!. Put the a couple of turtles behind them. Now the turtles have spread around the brite spring bushes and slowly fill in the spaces during summer season. Thinking the turtles like slightly acidic soil as well as moisture and woodland shade(dappled shade maybe).
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Mar 25, 2017 11:18 AM CST
I should check the soil ph and look for a summer bloomer to round out the grouping. A searching I`ll shall go.
@GeraldineDullaway what is your zone and what other plants are growing well near your chelone?
@Charlie what do you have near yours? Smiling
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Mar 25, 2017 3:31 PM CST

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Mar 25, 2017 3:39 PM CST
` Down Dog` in the garden or at the local gardening center, or a little of both Hilarious!
Spring fever and all Sighing!
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SunnyBorders
Mar 25, 2017 3:48 PM CST
Spring fever here too, but still not much spring.

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