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Apr 3, 2017 4:34 PM CST
I am Brock Slipstrick. I live in Northwest Florida. I have purchased American Seed seeds to plant on a practically wild hill. It is a large dirt mound with some long, wild grass growing on it. The seeds are Forget-me-nots, assorted French dwarf marigolds, Iceberg Lettuce, and pumpkin. They basically will be left up to nature to grow. It is a decently sunny location, but some spots have shade from trees. Which of these plants will grow the best, if any? What other plants are very hardy and grow well in nature, that I may grow from seeds? Are there any specifics on how to help the plants grow if possible? Thank you for your help.
Apr 3, 2017 5:11 PM CST
|I would forget the vegetables and add some seeds for wild flowers that grow well in your area.
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Apr 3, 2017 7:29 PM CST
| You can get a "wildflower mix" that will all be plants suited to growing in a situation like that. Look for one that's suited to "the Southeast" and it will have the right varieties. Better yet, see if you can get a "Florida natives" mix.
The lettuce and pumpkins need good rich soil, daily watering and fertilizer, plus it's too late here in Florida to grow lettuce anyway. It needs cool weather. Save those seeds and grow the lettuce in winter, preferably in a pot or pots.
Forget-me-nots like moisture and some shade so they're not going to be good either for Florida, or for your sunny wild hill. Throw them somewhere under a tree where the sprinklers will water them for you. That's your only chance, I think, for those guys.
The marigolds might work, though. We have them re-seed themselves very generously in our school garden over the summer, and they grow great.
A further thought, April and May are two of our driest months, and can be pretty hot, too. If you want to get even native wildflowers established enough to compete with the existing grasses, you absolutely will need to point the hose at your hill once in a while. Little seedlings don't survive without water until they get their roots down a ways. Once you start to see seedlings you should water every day or two unless it rains. Then you can slowly taper off as the plants get bigger.
Some people think that the term "drought tolerant" means you can plant a plant or seed and walk away. It just ain't so.
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Apr 4, 2017 7:17 AM CST
I was thinking the same thing when I read "lettuce and forget me nots".
you would want to plant those in the autumn.... Not the spring.
Dunno bout all the watering and fertilizing re pumpkins.... I'm used to them being a self maintaining plant, like the swan gourds. Most people have them come up in their compost... And we get pumpkins by leaving them alone.
So.... Maybe not on an un-improved wild slope.
Matter of fact... I'm not sure I'd bother planting anything on an unimproved patch of weeds.... That's the kind of location that I'd pull out the ragweeds, and leave most everything else.... And enjoy the natural wildflowers.
You might be able to get blackeyed susans to grow there.... If you plant them in the autumn....
Of course, deer and rabbits are real partial to rudbeckia....
Seems like a butterfly nursery waiting to happen.
At my house.... I have agalinis purpurea that comes up every year.... It's a natural... Gorgeous blooms, and lots of caterpillars.
Last year at about this time, I had American lady butterflies laying eggs on all the patches of cudweed they could find.... And I always get plenty of sulfur yellows on the partridge peas....
American lady laying eggs on cudweed
Seriously..... Don't plant anything.... I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
Apr 4, 2017 7:59 AM CST
|That hill is an eyesore. Just thought I could beautify it a tad bit.|
Apr 4, 2017 10:21 AM CST
|This mix might work for you, and it's fairly inexpensive for the quantity:
Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid.
Apr 4, 2017 10:23 AM CST
|Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
To give best advice....
We really need more information than you've provided.
Like.... How long have you lived there, how have you been caring for the hillside, what grows there now...
Pictures are really helpful!
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
Apr 4, 2017 10:58 AM CST
You have some virgin soil there. It'll be good to grow most things, several years before adding things to it. Allthough i woud start adding a little compost or wood chips right now. And a little every year. You'll be surprised in a few years, when you have some nice extra rich soil, and no weeds. 😁
Im taking it, that the grass is sparse.
To grow anything your going to have to water. If you can't ! Don't even bother planting. Or plant something really drought tollerent. Like catus or succulents.
I like to promote New Zeland Spinach. I Love the stuff !😁! Cooked. Tastes a little like spinash, but not. Good edible ground cover. It grows in heet or cold, sun or shade.
25f. To 110+f. All year ! Oh ! 😁 Thats a Perrenall. Isn't it. 😃😃😃
Ownce its growing a while. If for some reason. It gets killed off, by say, snow, ice or drought. No worry ! It reseeds itself, it will come back !
Its not invasive. Easy to control. It tears out very easily.
Took some to my sister, for ground cover. She was leery to try it. She finally did. She said : this is good ! SHIT ! I got to start eating this stuff. How long i been growing it !
I said : I told you so.
One last thing. You need to nick the seed with sandpaper or knife. Shell of seed makes for slow germanation.
Anything i say, could be misrepresented, or wrong.
Apr 4, 2017 11:15 AM CST
When you say "American Seed" did you purchase small packets of seed? or did you purchase from this company?:
If you bought the little packets they may be not-so-good-seeds.
Better to check with the closest farm/feed store and find something that will grow on your hill that will enrich your soil while it hides ugliness. Maybe vetch or clover or something like that. During the off season, till it under and plant again. Over time your soil will improve and you can plant lovely vegetable and wildflowers.
Sunset Zone 28, AHS Heat Zone 9, USDA zone 8b~"Leaf of Faith"
Apr 4, 2017 1:28 PM CST
|Thank you guys a lot. The long grass is fairly dense, and I could water it in case of drought. I bought those crappy packets, thought they'd be some cheap crap to grow just to make the hill not so hideous. When I was in Alaska, I saw wild forget-me-nots, so I thought they'd be tough. Also heard pumpkins were hardy. Anyone know where I could get good Black-eyed Susan's or whatever they are?|
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
Apr 5, 2017 9:49 AM CST
|Hi girl 😁
I dont believe in any bad or crappy seed companies. The best of them sometimes goof and send out bad seed.
What exactly are you trying to do?
Flowers that will grow as tall as grass ?
Go to store and get some black eye susan seeds, there perty common, and see what else turns you on. Stores have the usuall stuff that will grow in your area.
I'd plant all the seeds you have. Pumkins will take down alot of grass, with all the vining they do. Plant lettuce to. And let some of the lettuce go to seed. It will reseed itself and come back. Plus, the the tall spikes of tiny yellow flowers they send up, attract beneficial wasps. The wasps dont sting. There tiny little guys, smaller than a fly.
When you go to store to get black eye susans. Also get some zinna seeds. Tall variety grows 3 to 5 feet tall. I think the two would go good together. They will reseed to.
PS : I and everybody else, would just love to know dementions and see a picure of your area.
To give you better ideals.
Anything i say, could be misrepresented, or wrong.
Apr 7, 2017 7:16 AM CST
Bslipstrick said:That hill is an eyesore. Just thought I could beautify it a tad bit.
Really need a definition of what you are calling an eyesore.
I'm imagining a hillside covered in trash.... And maybe patches of thorns, and vines covering everything.... Trees with dead limbs....
Maybe some dead cars with trees growing through them....
Ain't no amount of flowers gonna help.... Might be able to cover some of it with morning glories.... Of course.... Then you'd be stuck with them.... Once those things naturalize, we can't grow anything else.
At my house....
I'm seeing flowers on the frost rose, and the amsonia, and the coral honeysuckle.... I didn't plant any of those....
I'm also seeing flowers on the spiderwort, poppies, mock orange, buckeye, which I did plant...
I'm also seeing several types of sunflowers coming up.... Some I planted, many are naturals.
The difficult thing to wrap our minds around when gardening here... Is that most of the flowers we can grow bloom for like a couple of weeks, and we need a LOT of different types of plants to have the succession of bloom that keeps colour out there 12 months of the year.
In general, scattering seed in an area without soil prep is generally an exercise in futility.
You might try what I'm doing to get easy flowers....
At my house, I potted up some soil in the largest pots I had, and scattered zinnia seeds in a couple pots, orange cosmos in a couple others.... Tomatoe seeds in others...
They are all up, when the seedlings get a little larger, I carefully decant the plants and tease them apart, potting them up into one gallon nursery pots.... After the plants recover from that process, then I start setting them out.
Because its soooooo hot....here, I can't just transplant bare root seedlings into the garden.... Matter of fact.... I actually have to. Keep the newly transplanted seedlings under a shade tree for a week or so.... Before I can even put any of them back out in the sunlight!
In Florida, you should look around for goodies that you can grow.... That I can't... Here in GA...
There's a nice perennial tithonia that I would love to have.... You also have different dune sunflowers than I have....
Is your slope the sand we are all thinking?
Still looking for some indication that you've had the time to identify some of the flowering plants that should already be out there without your having to do a thing.
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