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Name: Sherry
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wcgypsy
Apr 10, 2017 4:39 AM CST
Anyone recognize this beauty?

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Sherry
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Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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DaisyI
Apr 10, 2017 10:40 AM CST
Lilac?
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Name: Sue
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sooby
Apr 10, 2017 12:10 PM CST
The flowers look to be trimerous, so a monocot? Are there any pictures of the rest of the plant?
Name: Sherry
Northern California
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wcgypsy
Apr 10, 2017 12:14 PM CST
Posting for a friend, will have her shoot me a pic of the whole plant....thank you....
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Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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DaisyI
Apr 10, 2017 2:18 PM CST
Oops! Sooby's right. 3-petaled flowers so not a Lilac. One of the flowers is open but its not helping me any. I can't think of even of one (okay, maybe one) plant with 3-petaled flowers.
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Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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DaisyI
Apr 10, 2017 3:16 PM CST
Sooby's right. Not a Lilac. I am thinking its some sort of succulent type plant - Bromeliad, Tillandsia, Agave...

The flowers in combination with the leaves behind are ringing bells in my head but I'm not wrapping my brain around it. Here's what's in my head: Large rosette plant with spiky branched flower stalk.
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Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
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wcgypsy
Apr 10, 2017 3:22 PM CST
My first glance said Lilac because I have a Scentsation Lilac that has flowers rather like that, but pinkish....I've asked her to send me a pic of the entire plant, should hear back today....
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"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
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Silversurfer
Apr 10, 2017 4:11 PM CST
It is definitely not lilac..Syringa vulgaris. It has 4 petals.

https://www.google.co.uk/searc...



Dichorisandra thyrsiflora has 3 petals ....but the flowers are just a simple spike...but branched.

https://www.google.co.uk/searc...
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
Opp, AL ๐ŸŒต๐ŸŒทโš˜๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒป (Zone 8b)
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purpleinopp
Apr 11, 2017 2:10 PM CST
Some kind of Dichorisandra ?
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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Apr 11, 2017 3:11 PM CST
Looks like the bloom of a Cordyline to me:
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Name: Sue
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sooby
Apr 11, 2017 3:29 PM CST
plantladylin said:Looks like the bloom of a Cordyline to me:


It sure does Thumbs up The ID one only seems to open three petals whereas C. fruticosa looks to open sepals as well. Do they develop further? I found a pic on the web of a Cordyline glauca that seemed to look predominantly like three petals open but apparently that is a non-existent plant!

Name: Lin
Florida Zone 9b, 10a

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plantladylin
Apr 11, 2017 5:44 PM CST
Flower close ups for comparison:
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Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
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wcgypsy
Apr 11, 2017 6:54 PM CST
I've not grown Cordylines....but since we've moved up here, I've discovered the Cabbage Tree...a lot of those grown here...I may plant some...if my cuttings made it through Winter....
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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Silversurfer
Apr 12, 2017 1:54 AM CST
Good call Lin.

This site has an interesting article about the name ..identical looking plant bought as Cordyline glauca.
It has a superb close up of the flower which clearly show not 3 petals but 6.

Quote from link..."After hearing a while back that Cordyline glauca was a man-made hybrid, I attempted to track down its origins for this post, and found a few sites implying that it wasn't a hybrid at all, that it was actually a variety of Cordyline brasiliensis. So then I went looking for information about Cordyline brasiliensis, but GRIN has never heard of C. brasiliensis...etc etc"

http://plantsarethestrangestpe...
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Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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purpleinopp
Apr 12, 2017 7:23 AM CST
I looked at Cordyline before moving on to the other suggestion because I couldn't find another bloom in that gorgeous lavender color. Excellent investigating, Lin!!

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The less I interfere, the more balance mother nature provides.
๐Ÿ‘’๐ŸŽ„๐Ÿ‘ฃ๐Ÿก๐Ÿƒ๐Ÿ‚๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŒฟ๐Ÿโฆโง ๐Ÿƒ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ‚๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŒป๐ŸŒธ๐ŸŒผ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒฝโ€โ˜€๐ŸŒบ
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Name: Lin
Florida Zone 9b, 10a

Region: United States of America Deer Region: Florida Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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plantladylin
Apr 12, 2017 7:54 AM CST
wcgypsy said:I've not grown Cordylines....but since we've moved up here, I've discovered the Cabbage Tree...a lot of those grown here.

Sherry, I've seen some of those big, beautiful Cordyline Cabbage Tree (Cordyline australis) in California, they are amazing!

~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot! ~


Name: Lin
Florida Zone 9b, 10a

Region: United States of America Deer Region: Florida Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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plantladylin
Apr 12, 2017 7:58 AM CST
Silversurfer said:Quote from link..." I went looking for information about Cordyline brasiliensis, but GRIN has never heard of C. brasiliensis...etc etc"

The Catalogue of Life shows Cordyline brasiliensis as a synonym for C. sellowiana which may be why the person who wrote the article didn't find any information on C. brasiliensis. Green Grin! I typed in Cordyline at the GRIN site: http://www.ars-grin.gov/ and it only came back showing Cordyline fruticosa so I wonder how up to date that site actually is because there are other species besides fruticosa.

~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot! ~


Name: Lin
Florida Zone 9b, 10a

Region: United States of America Deer Region: Florida Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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plantladylin
Apr 12, 2017 7:59 AM CST
purpleinopp said: Excellent investigating, Lin!!

I didn't do any investigating, I've just grown a few Cordylines and recognized the bloom. Rolling on the floor laughing

~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot! ~


Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
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wcgypsy
Apr 12, 2017 8:22 AM CST
Lin, Singing Wolf sends her thanks.....
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
Perthshire. SCOTLAND. UK
Region: United Kingdom Plant Identifier
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Silversurfer
Apr 12, 2017 8:39 AM CST
plantladylin said:
The Catalogue of Life shows Cordyline brasiliensis as a synonym for C. sellowiana which may be why the person who wrote the article didn't find any information on C. brasiliensis. Green Grin! I typed in Cordyline at the GRIN site: http://www.ars-grin.gov/ and it only came back showing Cordyline fruticosa so I wonder how up to date that site actually is because there are other species besides fruticosa.


Found this about Cordyline sellowiana..syn to Cordyline brasiliensis

http://www.theplantlist.org/tp...

This site has pics and seems to call it Cordyline dracaenoides..syn with Cordyline sellowiana.

http://flora-click.com/Cordyli...

So it goes round in ever changing circles.

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