Ask a Question forum: Belinda's Dream Roses - adding a xeriscape type (ie. gravel) planting bed

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Apr 11, 2017 10:35 PM CST

I posted a message on April 9 with the same subject heading. I received on brief response, but but like get more input.

Regarding the three Belinda's Dream rose buses planted two years ago, I'm wondering:

1. if adding gravel to the planting bed, instead of mulch (although, I'm guessing that I probably need to leave a small perimeter of mulch around each plant), will have adverse effects on the roses--will minerals percolate into the soil and change the pH, or are there other negative impacts?

2. if I need to add a french drain to assure the roots won't be too wet in periods of heavy rain. In order to add gravel, I will need to remove soil in the planting bed, up to six inches at the edges, in order to get good coverage , create a drainage slope, and keep the surface of the gravel below the concrete elements (driveway and walkway on two sides) that enclose the planting bed. This excavation will create a recess in the ground outside of the drip lines of the rose bushes where water could collect--the soil is heavy in clay. Adding a french drain along one side of the concrete would pull the water away.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can offer any advice.
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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Apr 11, 2017 11:24 PM CST

There is no need to start a new thread when you don't get the responses you want but instead, figure out why a group that usually has as much to say as this one doesn't have anything to say.

First, you posted on the 'Texas' forum so you can only expect to get responses from the folks who live in Texas. I felt Porkpal gave you good feedback considering what he had to go on.

Second, more information would be helpful. I only know you are in Texas because you posted your first message in the Texas forum. If you update your personal information with a city and state, we will be able to give more help.

Is this question specifically about Belinda's Dream Roses? Or just about roses? What kind of gravel are you using? You can change the Ph of your soil if you are using limestone or marbel chips. What kind of mulch are you using?

I can't even visualize what your are seeing/thinking about drainage and driveways. Does it rain a lot in your area? Is this runoff from the lawn? Photos are always welcome and encouraged.

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Southeast OK (Zone 7b)
Apr 12, 2017 6:32 AM CST
I own a Belinda dream rose bush. I've had her for 4 years. The first spot I put her was mulched and got tons of water and of course, sun. She performed beautifully. Last year I had to move her due to water pipes bursting. I moved her to a clay soil. I did not create drainage for her because she requires more water than any of my other roses. It is a fine balance with her because she will "ball" up with way too much water. Roses can do well in Clay soil. Just amend the soil. This is her second year in the spot and she's every bit as lovely as she was before the pipes bursting.

Perhaps a bit of sand with the clay would work better? When I planted her in her second spot, I did mulch her, but that was about it. She had lost a bit during the temporary move the day the pipes burst and this, her final resting spot. I really thought I was going to move her this year, but the way she turned out, there's no need to disturb her further. If you move her, expect her not to do as well as normal. She will recover the next season as you can see.

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