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Name: Abbey
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Garden10
Apr 14, 2017 12:21 PM CST
These things are stuck all over the foundation of my house, mostly on the north and south side. Was afraid to mess with it, what if it was some sort of cocoon or something, I'd wreck something precious AND have @Grammachar gunning for me, even though she only goes 25 mph, would still hurt! But today, I broke down and smashed one with the handle of my rake -- seemed soft, and they look like seeds inside, but...look familiar? Thank you!

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Name: Janine
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janinilulu
Apr 14, 2017 5:34 PM CST
Mud Wasp nest maybe.
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plantladylin
Apr 14, 2017 6:15 PM CST
Janine may be on the right track, they could very well be wasp nests and the tiny "seeds" may be eggs. For comparison, some photos of wasp nests:
http://bugguide.net/node/view/...
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https://www.google.com/search?...:
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Name: Abbey
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Garden10
Apr 14, 2017 6:23 PM CST
Yes, I Googled that when Janine said, but it's not a mud texture, do you know what it reminded me of when I hit it with the rake handle? You know those seed balls that fall off sycamore trees? Like that, not muddy or clay like. Does that help any? I have a lot of them, and I'm going to have my foundation painted as soon as the weather gets a bit warmer and stays that way, so whatever they are will have to go. Shrug!
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Name: Bob
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NJBob
Apr 14, 2017 8:31 PM CST
Looks like Gypsy moth eggs to me.
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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Apr 15, 2017 6:02 AM CST
My first thought was moth cocoons but my eyes aren't the best and I never found a match. We have Gypsy Moths here on occasion but I've never seen the cocoon or caterpillars, only the moths. I remember someone a few years ago talking about gypsy moth infestations in N.Y. and if you have lots of those cocoons on your house, you may see caterpillars emerging before long; they can really defoliate shrubs and trees quickly. When googling, I found articles about the gypsy moth invasions in RI, Mass. and N.Y. the past couple of years.

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Name: Abbey
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Garden10
Apr 15, 2017 7:34 AM CST
Well, here's how I'm spending part of my day, like it or not -- WOW! Seems like I attract invasive pests no matter where I am or what I do! Bob, thank you SO MUCH, thank all of you for helping.

See, this is what I mean, did I find cocoons that will bring forth beautiful butterflies? No. @cliftoncat enjoys the beauty of her plants and the animals in France -- what do I get? FRENCH MOTHS Grumbling
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Name: Mika
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cliftoncat
Apr 15, 2017 7:41 AM CST
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Name: Abbey
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Garden10
Apr 15, 2017 11:07 AM CST
That was pretty gruesome. Many had started to hatch, and there were a lot up where the foundation meets the siding (split level) that I hadn't noticed before. There were also a lot of dead bee carcasses in spider webs. Eesh! I attacked them with an old grill brush and a bucket of hot water mixed with concentrated Dawn. If any fell to the ground, I doused it. Took almost an hour, and there were some crawling up the siding that I just couldn't get to. But if I tell you I got rid of at least 50 of them, I'm not kidding. Can't wait till I get to the part of this gardening gig where I harvest flowers and veggies while butterflies dance around my head and bluebirds land on my shoulder! Rolling my eyes. Thank You! again!
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ctcarol
Apr 15, 2017 4:53 PM CST
Hilarious! This isn't Nirvana! For every plus, there is a negative. You just have to remain positive/hopeful.
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GrammaChar
Apr 15, 2017 10:00 PM CST
I agree with Bob, and you did the right thing to get rid of them. Know that wasn't an easy chore! Gardening is not for the squeamish, and sometimes drastic measures are called for when it comes to defoliators.
Meanwhile the Tersa Sphinx moth caterpillars are eating my penta plants to the nub - as I stand and watch. The pentas will grow back quickly; trees take a lot longer.
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Name: Sandy B.
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Weedwhacker
Apr 15, 2017 10:31 PM CST
"Can't wait till I get to the part of this gardening gig where I harvest flowers and veggies while butterflies dance around my head and bluebirds land on my shoulder! "

Abbey, I've been waiting for that part for about 40 years now... Rolling on the floor laughing
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GrammaChar
Apr 15, 2017 10:57 PM CST
I agree ....where's the Amen emoticon?
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Name: Abbey
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Garden10
Apr 16, 2017 6:09 PM CST
GrammaChar said:I agree with Bob, and you did the right thing to get rid of them. Know that wasn't an easy chore! Gardening is not for the squeamish, and sometimes drastic measures are called for when it comes to defoliators.
Meanwhile the Tersa Sphinx moth caterpillars are eating my penta plants to the nub - as I stand and watch. The pentas will grow back quickly; trees take a lot longer.


I thought you were going to take my head off -- I almost have the confidence to tell you that I killed a wasp in my bedroom the other night. Almost. Big Grin
"Every now and then I leave the book on the seat and go and have a refreshing potter among my flower beds from which I return greatly benefited, and with a more just conception of what is worth bothering about, and what is not." The Solitary Summer -- Elizabeth von Arnim
Name: Abbey
Eastern New York State (Zone 6a)
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Garden10
Apr 16, 2017 6:10 PM CST
ctcarol said: Hilarious! This isn't Nirvana! For every plus, there is a negative. You just have to remain positive/hopeful.


NIRVANA??? Rolling on the floor laughing
"Every now and then I leave the book on the seat and go and have a refreshing potter among my flower beds from which I return greatly benefited, and with a more just conception of what is worth bothering about, and what is not." The Solitary Summer -- Elizabeth von Arnim
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GrammaChar
Apr 16, 2017 6:38 PM CST
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While I am a "Live and Let Live" type of person, there *are* limits. Wasps or flies, scorpions or centipedes in the house are fair game. Outdoors I never bother them, figuring they were here first.

Recently I posted a minor rant about fire ants. I learned from the helpful responses that they are beneficial scavengers and that we have a native species which is not as aggressive as the imported strain. Obviously mine are non-native because they're all nasty, stinging, blistering little buggers. I wish they'd go scavenge somewhere else.

Today I encountered yet another garden inhabitant that I do not like. Chiggers. Please don't advise me to use sulphur, wear dark (or light) clothing, don't go outside until dusk, put a rubber band around my pant legs, stay out of the tall weeds, or change my diet. I've tried all of those things and nothing works. Chiggers love me. They will somehow travel great distances on those tiny little legs to eat my skin cells. I dislike using chemicals, but I drench my legs with DEET - yet they still nail me. And they itch.....for days. I look like a dot-to-dot puzzle and am seriously addicted to After Bite. Grrrr. Grumbling
Okay, I'll hush now. The saying goes, "Lord put your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth".
No more complaining. I promise.
Unless the African Killer Bees move in. Then all bets are off.
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