Hydrangeas forum: 5 finger discount means no hydrangeas

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Name: Beth
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BPadilla
Apr 15, 2017 8:51 AM CST
I'm sorry but I do have to rant a little here....

Within my garden club in my HOA a neighbor was giving away a hydrangea she was digging up to make room for a rose bush. I instantly jumped on it. I just landscaped my flower beds last year and I need plants. With my husband being out of work and just working on my income our funds are limited to what we buy (we're not hurting just being very watchful on the things we purchase). So the extra money we have is going towards lawn treatments and my veggie garden. So you can see my excitement on get a establish plant will happen. I have it in a bucket waiting for me to plant. I put it on the corner of my house in my flower bed where I'm going to plant it. (This was last weekend). And I was reading through the plant information forum about hydrangea to make sure I have the best location etc etc to plant it. As I pulled in yesterday I realized it was gone and to be perfectly honest I don't remember when it actually disappeared. I think it may have happened last weekend or early of this past week since I haven't seen the white bucket all week. And I searched my shed, the garage and all around my house to make sure I wasn't losing my mind. Even my husband doesn't remember the bucket which means it's been gone for a week before I realized it. That still just pisses me off! That someone felt they had the right to come on to my property and steal from me. Even if I didn't pay for that plant it still wasn't someones to take! Then I think about it more and I feel like I'm even more urked that someone was on my property that shouldn't have been.

So now I am out of a hydrangea bush and my side flower bed continues to just be a pile of mulch. Back to my veggie garden....

Thanks for letting me vent.
Name: Bob
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NJBob
Apr 15, 2017 8:25 PM CST
Sorry that happened to you. One year I had a couple of plants taken when I left the pots on the front property. I have even caught a couple of people cutting flowers out of the front garden with my car right there in the driveway.
Name: Rose
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Rose1656
Apr 16, 2017 7:11 AM CST
My niece had a huge beautiful hanging basket stolen right off of her front porch! Most gardeners are very honest people. But, I guess there's one in every crowd... Sorry that you lost such a good deal.
Name: Beth
Greenwood, IN (Zone 6a)
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BPadilla
Apr 17, 2017 9:13 PM CST
I don't understand the need to steal other people stuff.
Name: Susan
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stilldew
Apr 19, 2017 8:50 PM CST
Sorry to hear this Beth. I just bought 3 new ones and planted them the same day. I thought how tempting they might be to someone.

Name: Three guesses...
Decatur, IL (Zone 6a)
CindySue
May 21, 2017 8:06 AM CST
Here's my take on hydrangeas: The reason they are so easy to grow is because they're so enjoyed. Not revered, not worried about, but enjoyed. Even if the owner worries about them a bit, others will enjoy them enough to over-rule the owner and it will come back from whatever the owner is worried about.

I think all plants love being enjoyed and hydrangeas are just so extremely enjoyable and from SUCH a distance that they get plenty and, in turn, are easy to propagate and grow.

I had an unknown bush at one house where I lived that was enjoyed all spring (BEAUTIFUL dark green foliage), all summer (covered with little bright red flowers) and even fall as the leaves changed before they dropped BUT not so much in winter. THEN, one winter we had an exceptionally windy cold spell - it hovered down around zero for almost two weeks - so I slid cardboard into the sticks so the birds could get some relief from the wind and the birds loved it so the bush was being enjoyed in the dead of winter. Then, along comes this ice storm and it's covered in ice but the birds are not affected at all - they're just loving it and so was I - and this bush broke the ice and spit out a single bright red flower. No leaves, nothing. Just this single flower, poking through the ice. It was the most awesome thing I've ever seen!
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Name: Three guesses...
Decatur, IL (Zone 6a)
CindySue
May 21, 2017 8:08 AM CST
I neglected to make my point - if I'm right and you forgot to enjoy your hydrangea for a little too long, then either someone who was giving it attention OR some animal came along and drug it off in anticipation of a hydrangea doing what hydrangeas do which is being awesome and attracting enjoyable attention.
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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
May 21, 2017 8:46 AM CST
So, CindySue, kind of a karma thing? Can't say I buy into that...but I guess it's a thought. I think I'll side with the low-down miserable thief angle myself. We've been burgled a few times and I don't think it's because we didn't appreciate our stuff enough. The last time it happened the thief (one of my son's heroin addict friends) stopped by to 'visit' us shortly before everything went missing. We were happy he appeared to be in recovery and were making arrangements for him to install an irrigation system (complete with tour of the yard and barn). Next thing we knew, the chainsaws, weedwackers, come-alongs, and various other power tools in our open barn were just...gone. When I spoke with my son, he confirmed that this was the friend's modus operandi. Gary actually called the kid and left a rather strident message that we knew it was him and to please return our tools. He didn't, of course, nor did he deny being the thief... Haven't seen him since, although I hear he is back on a good path. I do wish him well, heroin can be a real bug-a-boo to kick.
I want to live in a world where the chicken can cross the road without its motives being questioned.
Name: Beth
Greenwood, IN (Zone 6a)
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BPadilla
May 21, 2017 11:38 AM CST
@cindysue

I'm not quite sure where you were going with me not enjoying it. If you read my post I had even planted it yet. I got it from a neighbor and was looking up how to care for it prior to planting it the next weekend when I realized it was gone and the bucket it was in. Meaning a PERSON stole it right out of my flower bed bucket with it. So no I didn't get to enjoy because I never had the chance to. My rant was more that someone was on my property and stole something from me.
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lauribob
May 21, 2017 2:16 PM CST
Beth, I think you are entitled to your rant, I'm sorry you got ripped off. I wouldn't waste any time worrying about whether or not you are worthy to own it or whether someone else was going to give it a better home. LOL! Gosh, I hope the Plant Protective Services doesn't find out how badly I keep up with my weeding and come and snatch all my prized plants away!
More costumes, less uniforms!
Name: Three guesses...
Decatur, IL (Zone 6a)
CindySue
May 21, 2017 2:20 PM CST
@BPadilla I totally apologize. I didn't mean to imply you'd done something wrong. It's not a "karma" thing nor any sort of "sentimental" nor "paranormal" thing - it's an actual physics thing. Not wholly understood, but real, and my description is just a neat way of looking at it (I think) or even experimenting with it without all of the technical jargon designed to exclude the average person from the exploration of the world in which he/she lives.

You can explore it or play with it or poopoo it, it doesn't matter. It's not considered important. Again, I apologize for the misunderstanding but the vibe of the attention received by plant matter has a profound effect, on a cellular level. Nevertheless, it's not considered a gardening topic so I won't bring it up again. Sorry.
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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
May 21, 2017 2:25 PM CST
Curiously, do you have any studies that uphold your view? Seems a bit woo-woo to me, but I'm always open to read valid scientific research.
I want to live in a world where the chicken can cross the road without its motives being questioned.
Name: Three guesses...
Decatur, IL (Zone 6a)
CindySue
May 21, 2017 3:32 PM CST
Bonehead said:Curiously, do you have any studies that uphold your view? Seems a bit woo-woo to me, but I'm always open to read valid scientific research.


ROFL! I'm not falling for that. Try Google's advanced search. The field is all over the place but you can easily find Cleve Backster's work. It was his research that lit the fire under plant neurobiology - if you're interested in journal articles and papers.

I think I'm going to try to stick to my blog. I am WAY better with plants and animals than I am with people. No matter what I say, they're offended and I don't like offending people.
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Name: Rose
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Rose1656
May 26, 2017 4:16 PM CST
I've posted this in another forum, but I'll share the story here. We had the neighborhood meth head do donuts in our front yard, tearing up the lawn, burn barrel and an established hosta bed. Fortunately our surveillance camera caught it all. We filed charges and he's supposed to pay restitution. There's usually no reasonable explanation as to why people do destructive things to other people's property. I'm just glad that we caught him in the act. He's been a problem to others in the neighborhood but they had no proof.
Name: Beth
Greenwood, IN (Zone 6a)
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BPadilla
May 26, 2017 7:18 PM CST
@rose1656

I'm glad you were able to catch him on video. Me, not so much.
Name: Ed
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herrwood
May 26, 2017 7:33 PM CST
Modern life is so difficult because we consider ourselves civilized.
A 100 years or so back you could just shoot the thief and solve everyone's problem

Yes I have also had stuff stolen from my house and it is not a nice feeling.
Plants are like that little ray of sunshine on a rainy day.
Name: Deb
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Bonehead
May 27, 2017 10:05 AM CST
We went through that when our sons were growing up. Pretty certain all our petty thefts were from 'friends' of theirs. Likely ones I've fed numerous times. I'd still feed them; most I've known since grade school.
I want to live in a world where the chicken can cross the road without its motives being questioned.
Name: Laurie b
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lauriebasler
Aug 4, 2017 11:56 PM CST
Boy, do I relate to that, Deb. Kids get a break, as long as they outgrow any foul thieving behavior before they become grown men. I remember feeding a room full of boys lunch, wondering who got $50 richer the night before. They are all great men now. And one of them probably still feels lousy over it.

People will take something, and justify it by thinking you have more than enough, and maybe won't even miss it. But that is not the point.

I had a white rock about 9 inches in diameter, that was always in my father in laws yard, no matter where he lived. I brought it to my yard when he passed, and I loved having it here. It was just a rock to every one on the planet but me. It was a precious reminder. And yep, someone took it, on the 4th of July. Basically, stealing is stealing whether it is a plant, or a rock or a diamond ring.
Name: Laurie b
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lauriebasler
Aug 4, 2017 11:57 PM CST
Boy, do I relate to that, Deb. Kids get a break, as long as they outgrow any foul thieving behavior before they become grown men. I remember feeding a room full of boys lunch, wondering who got $50 richer the night before. They are all great men now. And one of them probably still feels lousy over it.

People will take something, and justify it by thinking you have more than enough, and maybe won't even miss it. But that is not the point.

I had a white rock about 9 inches in diameter, that was always in my father in laws yard, no matter where he lived. I brought it to my yard when he passed, and I loved having it here. It was just a rock to every one on the planet but me. It was a precious reminder. And yep, someone took it, on the 4th of July.

Basically, stealing is stealing whether it is a plant, or a rock or a diamond ring.

Trying
Aug 7, 2017 12:40 PM CST
That is so strange, a friend of mine also had a Hydrangea stolen, is stealing Hydrangeas a thing?

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