Plant ID forum: Tree ID

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zaca
Apr 15, 2017 12:23 PM CST
Dear all,
Once more for the purpose of fungus identification I need to identify its host. These trees grow together on the side of a road of the park. Seem common here. I attach a photo taken from a distant point and a close up of the trunks and tree shoots growing at the base of the trees.
Thanks in advance,
zaca

Location data:
Continent: Europe
Country: Portugal
City: Lisboa (or Lisbon, capital of the country
Place: Parque de Monsanto (big park at the boundary of the city)

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zaca
Apr 16, 2017 5:46 AM CST
Maybe another photo of the trunk and leaves of a tree shoot will help.
Regards,
zaca
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Name: Sue
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sooby
Apr 16, 2017 6:22 AM CST
The leaves appear to be opposite, which should narrow it down but it is difficult without flowers or fruit to help (is there any evidence of either on or around the tree?).. Can you take a picture of an individual leaf on white paper to show the leaf edges more clearly? It looks as if there are no serrations but just to make sure. Can you tell if it is growing wild and seems to be native, or could it have been planted?
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
Daylilies Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Native Plants and Wildflowers Butterflies Annuals
Region: Canadian Keeps Horses Dog Lover Plant Identifier Garden Sages
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sooby
Apr 16, 2017 6:49 AM CST
The closest I've come so far is Ligustrum lucidum, which is not native but does occur in Portugal. The leaf edges and presence or absence of lenticels (see second reference below) should help include or exclude it as a possibility.

http://www.virboga.de/Ligustru...
http://www.iewf.org/weedid/Lig...

zaca
Apr 16, 2017 8:12 AM CST
Hi sooby,
Thank you very much for your messages.
You came to a species that either is or is very similar to the trees I'm looking for the name. Unfortunately, I didn't bring home any material from the trees, but one of the forthcoming days I will try to have a more clear image of the leaves; I share your opinion, that they are not serrate. Meanwhile, I was looking to my files I saw a photo taken at the same group of trees in April 2016, that I attach to this message, where the leaves can be seen better (clearly opposite, I would say). The existence of lenticels is doubtful to me.
If this is the species you propose, then I suppose that flowers can be seen only next month.
In relation to their origin, it is difficult to to say if they are native or planted. It seems to me that at the place where they grow (on the side of a road), most probably their were planted.
Best regards,
zaca
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zaca
Apr 16, 2017 9:56 AM CST
BINGO!
I've continued my search of photos from these trees and found something. On October 2016 I took a photograph to a group of trees of the same species (I believe) on the other side of the road where they all live. Magnifying this photo it is possible to see some languishing flowers and fruits as well (top part) which are very much similar to those indicated in the links given by sooby for Ligustrum lucidum. Thus, I believe that the identification is done, thanks to sooby.
What do you think?
Kind regards,
zaca
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zaca
Apr 18, 2017 3:45 PM CST
I tip my hat to you. Thank You!
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
Daylilies Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Native Plants and Wildflowers Butterflies Annuals
Region: Canadian Keeps Horses Dog Lover Plant Identifier Garden Sages
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sooby
Apr 18, 2017 4:03 PM CST
It certainly looks like a good possibility. Thumbs up

zaca
Apr 21, 2017 11:15 AM CST
As promised I attach a photo of the leaves.
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Regards,
zaca

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