Tropicals forum: Solanum pyracanthos (S.pyracanthum)

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longk
Apr 19, 2017 1:10 AM CST
This year I have a few Solanum pyracanthos coming along from seed. Native to Madagascar it is probably not the best choice for rural England but it should make an interesting foliage plant..............
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As you can see they're still small but they have started to put a spurt on now.
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Name: Sandi
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Bubbles
Apr 19, 2017 5:30 AM CST

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Well, that will keep the rabbits out of your garden! Awesome!
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longk
Apr 19, 2017 2:07 PM CST
Bubbles said:Well, that will keep the rabbits out of your garden! Awesome!

I don't fancy pruning it much! Mind you, I have some Puya in need of potting on which is another job that I'm dreading!
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Name: Sandi
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Apr 19, 2017 3:05 PM CST

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I have lots of bromeliads. I look like I've been in a cat fight when I try to separate them. They are just beginning to wake up and bloom. The Puya looks wicked.
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tarev
Apr 19, 2017 3:09 PM CST
longk, that sure looks pretty and prickly sharp!
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ardesia
Apr 19, 2017 5:01 PM CST
Reminds me of a large, 6', clump of soap aloes that I need to clear out. Haven't a clue how I'll get in there to divide them.
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Bubbles
Apr 19, 2017 7:52 PM CST

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That's a lot of aloes!
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ardesia
Apr 20, 2017 5:21 AM CST
We own the lot next door to us and I often just stick stuff over there. The spot where I plunked them has no irrigation and full sun, their favorite kind of conditions, so they just took off but now it is a monster and needs to be cleaned up. They are quite beautiful when they are in full bloom which is frequently. Except for a few little ones around the edges that can be easily separated I'll have to take a chainsaw to the clump.
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Name: Sandi
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Apr 20, 2017 5:51 AM CST

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@longk I'm curious about your 8a zone. I always think of England being much colder than here. Seems that you can grow many of the plants we grow here. Do you have a greenhouse to keep them in over winter?
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dyzzypyxxy
Apr 23, 2017 3:08 PM CST
That plant sure looks like something that would grab my ankles and make me bleed all the way into the house. Yikes, what thorns!

Sandi, I'm originally from Vancouver, British Columbia which has a very similar climate to parts of the UK. It is also zone 8a (or maybe 8b ? ) just because it doesn't get all that cold in the winter. The climate is moderated by the nearness to the ocean in both places. Winters are much longer and it's cool and wet most of the year so the average temperature (if you count the whole year) is much colder. That's the fatal flaw of the "zones" system I think. It sure doesn't get nearly as hot in summer as you do.

Parts of Florida are zone 8a or b, too. Warm, most of the winter, hot and steamy all summer, but does get down into the high 20's at worst each winter for a week here and there, so . . . same zone! Rolling my eyes. Shrug!
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Bonehead
Apr 23, 2017 3:15 PM CST
As a fellow Zone 8-er, I would never think Florida would have that zone. I guess they go by the lowest temp and rather disregard the highs, huh? I think of Zone 8 as temperate, which is not at all how I regard Florida.
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dyzzypyxxy
Apr 23, 2017 5:09 PM CST
Yep, the zone is purely based on the "average low temperature" for that area in winter. Guess that's why they're called hardiness zones. Doesn't matter if those low temps last for a few days, or a few weeks or a few months.

Just my opinion, but I think the zone designations really aren't that useful for gardeners, for exactly that reason. Completely different plants grow where you are to the zone 8 areas in Florida. (well, I can grow some temperate annuals here in winter that you'd grow in the summer . . . and I'm actually zone 9b here.) Our weather here in winter is amazingly similar to your Pac. Northwest summers, except the days are shorter.
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longk
Apr 24, 2017 3:28 AM CST
Bubbles said:@longk I'm curious about your 8a zone. I always think of England being much colder than here. Seems that you can grow many of the plants we grow here. Do you have a greenhouse to keep them in over winter?
I've gone by the USDA rating which gives -9 to -12ยฐc for 8a.
I do have a couple of greenhouses, a shed, a garage and a porch which helps to. And certain potted plants parked next to the house air bricks can push the zones too. And it also has to be remembered that some plants are hardier than we give them credit for. I've just got a Kennedia nigricans through the winter outdoors in a sheltered spot!

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ardesia
Apr 24, 2017 5:51 AM CST
So true, there are ever so many factors that go into individual microclimates.
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Apr 24, 2017 6:20 AM CST

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@longk Okay, I understand now. I have a small greenhouse and a couple of " hoophouses" that I winter over tropicals in. It certainly jump starts them when the weather warms up.
I had to pause to look up Kennedia nigricans! What an unusual vine! I did find a source here for the seeds. I may have to try that one. Seems like it would survive here planted in ground.
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longk
Jul 7, 2017 10:01 AM CST
First bloom today!
Thumb of 2017-07-07/longk/11a308Solanum pyracanthos by longk48, on Flickr

As it is native to Madagascar I'm happy with that! It looks so good against all the thorns............
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ctcarol
Jul 7, 2017 6:15 PM CST
Wow! that's a lot of wicked looking thorns!
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Jul 18, 2017 9:58 AM CST
Well somebody has to love this plant. I'm glad it found someone!
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plantladylin
Jul 18, 2017 12:32 PM CST
That is one interesting and spiny plant; I can see where it got the common name of Porcupine Tomato!! We currently don't have photos in the database so I hope you will consider uploading a few of your great pictures! Porcupine Tomato (Solanum pyracanthos)
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longk
Jul 18, 2017 2:39 PM CST
purpleinopp said:Well somebody has to love this plant. I'm glad it found someone!

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