Sempervivum and Jovibarba forum: Picked up another semp ID ?

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Name: Ed
Central ,NJ (Zone 6b)
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herrwood
Apr 20, 2017 3:14 PM CST
Wasn't planned I was in walmart and need a hose spray head and came across this marked down to $7.xx and so took it home.
I pretty they are all the same just trying to find a name I looked through the database and the only thing that I thought was close was one called Sempervivum 'Silverine' and one called Sempervivum 'Fusilier'

There also is some sedum mixed in which I still need to ID but mostly would like the name or a good guess of the semp

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Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Apr 20, 2017 4:04 PM CST
Looks nice Ed! Unlikely that you'll get a name. These large stores buy from nurseries that grow from seed, therefor it isn't a named culivar.
In order to keep the name it has to be from the actual plant rather than the seed.
So either leaf, cell culture or offsets. Hope that makes sense to you?
I tip my hat to you.

Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Apr 20, 2017 5:01 PM CST
Like Greg said, it's very hard to identify the semp as they also change dramatically thru the seasons. Who knows where the big box stores get their Semps. Even if a plants is ID'ed, it should be verified. I went to a NURSERY (not a specialized one) and saw ID tags for Semp arachnoideums that was obviously Jovi hirta rollers.

The sedum I see in the photo looks to be at top left: Sedum ruspestre 'Lemon Ball', and at top right: sedum rubrotinctum 'Pork and Beans', and at bottom left Sedum rupestre 'Angelina'.
Name: Ed
Central ,NJ (Zone 6b)
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herrwood
Apr 20, 2017 5:39 PM CST
Greg/Bev, yes that makes a lot of sense. When I was looking in the database trying to find a name I notice that some of the photos were different then others under the same name. Most important to me is it is different then the others that I have.
Bev thanks for the info on the sedums
Ed
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Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Apr 20, 2017 6:23 PM CST
Ed, the plants without ID's are called NOIDs (for NO Id) Bev even has a thread about loving NOIDs. nodding And if I were better at this I'd link you to that but because I don't remember how to I'll just say, go to the semperivum forum and scroll down to the NOID thread - there are pics of people's semps Thumbs up
I tip my hat to you.

Name: Ed
Central ,NJ (Zone 6b)
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herrwood
Apr 20, 2017 6:43 PM CST
Greg thanks here is the link
The thread "The My-Noid-ity Report" in Sempervivum and Jovibarba forum
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Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Apr 20, 2017 7:19 PM CST
Thank you Ed! I tip my hat to you. I tip my hat to you.

Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Apr 20, 2017 7:22 PM CST
By the way the'pork n beans' Sedum isn't hardy in your area so I'd replant that one. I think the bright yellow will be marginal but could be wrong.
Good luck

Name: Ed
Central ,NJ (Zone 6b)
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herrwood
Apr 20, 2017 7:49 PM CST
I know the pork & beans is only supposed to be good to about 20f but I had some in a planter out all winter and it is still in good condition. We did have a mild winter but still had our share of freezing temps. I will leave some out and test it again next winter.
Plants are like that little ray of sunshine on a rainy day.
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Apr 20, 2017 9:17 PM CST
That's a very good point Ed, I had a harsher than usual winter and mine doesn't look so great but it will possibly come back
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Name: Jo Ann
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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ricos
Apr 23, 2017 7:46 AM CST
Hi Ed ditto Greg and Bev on the semp. It looks like an unnamed seedling and probably one that should not be named as it does not have enough leaves. However the color is nice. The reason to buy your Semps on line or from a local specialist nursery is not only that you will get a quality plant with the correct name ( which requires knowledge, diligence and time=money) but you can get information from the grower about the plant and how to grow it. That's why you pay a little more. Sedum are no different. There are a few varieties that are easily identified but many more that are not. I agree with Bev on the Lemon Ball and rubrotinctum but i am not so sure that I see Angelina in your picture at all. Just as well. She is a garden Thug. Spreads way too fast to go in a pot. And you didn't hear that little tid bit of info at Walmart. You got lucky leaving rubrotinctum out all winter. Good plan to have a cutting indoors just in case.
Your pot does look nice. Don't be afraid to give the sedum a "hair cut" when they need it. Smiling
Name: Ed
Central ,NJ (Zone 6b)
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herrwood
Apr 23, 2017 9:48 AM CST
Joann, thanks for the info. For outside plants I like to find out the names so i know whether they will survive the winter. I know the semps are ok for the winter the others I usually find by trial and error which is ok as plant are basically inexpensive but I still hate to kill something off.
Plants are like that little ray of sunshine on a rainy day.
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Apr 23, 2017 10:13 AM CST
Ed another thing I didn't mention, the semps are most likely Sempervivum tectorum, then beyond that is unknown
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