Sempervivum and Jovibarba forum: 'Temby'... or not 'Temby'... that is the question

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Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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tcstoehr
Apr 22, 2017 11:38 AM CST
I got 'Temby' for all those awesome yellow, pink and orange combinations. Mine hasn't looked like that, although I am certainly willing to give it some more time. But does your 'Temby' ever look like this? What does yours look like now? I don't see anything like mine in our DB pictures.

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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Apr 23, 2017 1:03 PM CST

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That looks correct to me Tim. That coloring is at this time of spring is due to all the cooler temps and rain. Yours look about the same color as mine. Won't be long before they are this stage of coloring (June 2)
Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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tcstoehr
Apr 23, 2017 1:37 PM CST
Now that's what I'm talkin' about. I hope it happens. Crossing Fingers!
Name: Jo Ann
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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ricos
Apr 24, 2017 1:13 AM CST
Tim I have many varieties that are darker than I have ever seen them. Some of them that should not be wide open are that way. I think there is a good chance that your Temby will lighten up when we get some sun. It will probably cup up again too. Thumbs up
Name: Karen
NM (Zone 7b)
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plantmanager
Apr 25, 2017 2:48 PM CST
I had to leave all of my semps for 2 weeks, outdoors and not watered. We got back to them yesterday and I panicked because they were all closed up and looking horrible. I watered them well, and this morning, they're all open again and look fine. It's amazing to me how fast they can change.
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Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Apr 25, 2017 3:05 PM CST
Good to hear they are better, Karen! Now you know the length of their tolerance.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Apr 25, 2017 4:52 PM CST

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Great save Karen. Hurray!
Name: Karen
NM (Zone 7b)
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plantmanager
Apr 25, 2017 5:16 PM CST
I don't have any idea how long they can go without water in warm, dry, windy weather. I think 2 weeks was pushing it. I'm trying to get my husband to fix me up my fenced space with a drip system for watering while we're gone.
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Apr 25, 2017 6:06 PM CST

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warm dry or very cold dry can desiccate semps pretty quickly. What are your temps like this time of year Karen?
Name: Karen
NM (Zone 7b)
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plantmanager
Apr 25, 2017 8:58 PM CST
It's roughly 50 overnight and high 70's in the daytime right now. When summer hits it can go as high as 103. When that happens I think they'll need to go to a shadier place for a while.
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Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Apr 25, 2017 9:01 PM CST
Karen I too am amazed at how quickly these plants can shift! That's great that they bounced back for you! Yes in summer you will need shade for sure with your temps!
Otherwise they'll live but probably not looking lush and lovely! I tip my hat to you.

Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Apr 25, 2017 9:19 PM CST
Karen, isn't the altitude at your place in NM a big number such that it would be a major factor in regards to sunlight? Confused
It was 7000 ft altitude where I had lived in NM which is really different than 2000 ft and even more so close to sea level at other places. Salem is 153 ft.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Apr 25, 2017 9:21 PM CST

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How low can we go?
Or in Karen's area, 'How high can you go?' Big Grin
Name: Karen
NM (Zone 7b)
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plantmanager
Apr 25, 2017 9:26 PM CST
Rolling on the floor laughing We are at 6500 ft elevation here in NM.I'll definitely get them shaded before the triple digits hit. Fortunately it's not as bad as the Arizona heat. In AZ it stays that hot for hours, but in NM, it reaches the peak for the day and drops almost instantly back to 90's.
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Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Apr 25, 2017 9:26 PM CST
I think it's no Tucson...
and being 6500 ft closer to the sun is no picnic. I quit sitting out in the sun at 7000 ft as my lawn chair got sunburnt bad!!!
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Name: Karen
NM (Zone 7b)
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plantmanager
Apr 25, 2017 9:30 PM CST
Yes, things fade quickly in the sun.
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Name: Paul
southern California
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cahdg6891
Apr 26, 2017 11:00 PM CST
Karen, where I am I water most of them about every two weeks during our summer weather (95+ days are the norm) and keep them under 50% shade cloth. Some can go longer without water than others and some are thirstier, I have to pay attention as some will start to wrinkle and wither while others will look perfectly fine. 'Emerald Empress' and 'Pinkerine' are two that demand more summer water than any of my other sempervivums. I always water at dusk when the evening winds come up and the temperature has cooled off.

With sun you can experiment and see if any of them have a higher tolerance for sunlight than others too. My 'Pink Lemonade' was in a sunnier spot than any of my other sempervivums and not only looked great all summer but even started leaning a bit towards the sunlight, and according to Mountain Crest Gardens it doesn't like sun as much as other ones do Blinking 'Hart 8' is another one that is sun hungry here.
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Apr 26, 2017 11:24 PM CST
Paul, you are right. There's not a set tolerance of sun for semps in general. I notice within the same pot some semps reaching for the sun and started to elongate while others in the pot look fine rosette shape-wise. I don't mention names as these semps all are without ID so I try to notice what type they are. For example are they fuzzy or webby or smooth, do they vary in color intensity given the lack of light? I've been trying to observe which respond better to lack of sunlite on my balcony so that I can concentrate on raising those.
Name: Karen
NM (Zone 7b)
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plantmanager
Apr 27, 2017 10:06 PM CST
I can see it's going to be a lot of watching and learning. Thanks, Paul and Bev. I'm finding them to be fascinating. I've been checking them out daily and they seem to change daily. I had so many that were plain green when I got them, and now they all look different.

We're having horrible winds. We had gusts to 60mph. It's impossible to do anything outdoors right now. I may be potting up things inside tomorrow. I have a lot of new plants to get potted up.
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Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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tcstoehr
Jun 9, 2017 11:09 AM CST
My 'Temby' is lightening up a bit. Here's an April 22nd picture compared with today.

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