Plant ID forum: My cat ate all of this.

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fifleman
Apr 26, 2017 9:09 PM CST
My cat came across this in the backyard and went nuts for it. He enjoyed eating it. I thought it smelled like mint, but cross - referencing photos of mint leaves on the internet with my picture produced no clear result. Then again, the leaves were probably not done growing. I'm in western Nebraska if that's any help.
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DaisyI
Apr 26, 2017 11:26 PM CST
Welcome!

I assume the cat is fine? Crying

The aromatic scent and square stems suggest something in the mint family. The leaves make me think one of the sages.
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Jai_Ganesha
Apr 27, 2017 12:18 AM CST
There are varieties of catnip with squarer leaves and the typical 4-sided stem of the mint family. My guess is that it's a feral variety of Nepeta or a close relative.

Your cat is a stoner. Don't worry--this is not your fault. There is help available and other families are going through this, too. Please call Nancy Reagan at...oh, never mind. I'm showing my age.
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plantladylin
Apr 27, 2017 4:43 AM CST
Maybe a variety of N. racemosa (Synonym N. mussinii):
Nepeta (Nepeta racemosa)
Catmint (Nepeta x faassenii 'Walker's Low')
Persian Catmint (Nepeta racemosa 'Little Titch')

More leaf photos that resemble yours:
https://static.ashwoodnurserie...
http://www.bing.com/images/sea...
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fifleman
Apr 27, 2017 6:54 AM CST
DaisyI said: Welcome!

I assume the cat is fine? Crying

The aromatic scent and square stems suggest something in the mint family. The leaves make me think one of the sages.


Yes, he would eat the whole post and now, a coupe of days later, he's still breathing! He didn't throw up or show affected eating patterns, but he ate it up and I want to grow some for him.

Thanks and welcome to you!

fifleman
Apr 27, 2017 6:59 AM CST
Jai_Ganesha said:There are varieties of catnip with squarer leaves and the typical 4-sided stem of the mint family. My guess is that it's a feral variety of Nepeta or a close relative.

Your cat is a stoner. Don't worry--this is not your fault. There is help available and other families are going through this, too. Please call Nancy Reagan at...oh, never mind. I'm showing my age.


He has had trouble dealing with reality lately. It doesn't surprise me he's turning to coping mechanisms. Thanks for your reply!


fifleman
Apr 27, 2017 7:02 AM CST


Thank you for your detailed reply. I am wanting to remember purple flowers in that area of the landscape last year, but can't say for sure.
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Jai_Ganesha
Apr 27, 2017 11:43 PM CST
I grow catnips too and there are a few species. Some of them hybridize very easily, and the hybrids may or may not produce flowers. Some produce only a few tiny flowers that aren't noticeable. These varieties tend to propagate via underground runners and also tend to have a sort of hybrid vigor that allows them to propagate this way really fast (like may plants in the mint family). So if you don't find flowers, that doesn't necessarily mean it isn't catnip or a close relative.
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purpleinopp
Apr 28, 2017 7:51 AM CST
Compare to Glechoma hederacea.
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plantladylin
Apr 28, 2017 8:33 AM CST
I thought it looked a lot like Creeping Charlie (Glechoma hederacea) too which has toxic qualities but this article states that poisoning is rare because animals do not like the bitter taste: http://www.library.illinois.ed...

More photos and information on these pages:
https://www.eddmaps.org/ipane/...
https://uswildflowers.com/deta...
https://www.firescience.gov/pr...
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purpleinopp
Apr 28, 2017 10:56 AM CST
Good investigating, Lin. I'm always fascinated when "they" say what critters do or don't like to eat. We all know that unusual cat or dog that eats weird things that are not normally considered food for others of the same species, like my mom's golden retriever who loves figs. I also know a chihuahua who likes carrots.

Individual people have vastly varying individual preference regarding edibles, so it's not at all far-fetched for me to imagine the same individuality of preference for animals.

It's a difficult ID from the 1 pic available in this discussion, though an interesting discussion, and I'm not leaning in any direction toward an ID from that pic. More pics might be needed, and knowing the location would be helpful.
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plantladylin
Apr 28, 2017 2:10 PM CST
@Purpleinopp Tiffany, the location of the plant in question is in Western Nebraska and apparently Glechoma is found in a large part of the country so I thought it might be a possibility.

LOL regarding what critters will and won't eat. We have two Golden Retrievers; Bo loves fruits and veggies of all kinds, especially apples, bananas, carrots and green beans. I swear that dog can be at the other end of the house and hear me peeling a banana! They also have a habit of eating the lawn so we've been saying they are goat-dogs. We have a problem with them finding rubber mulch that the former homeowners used; I've heard that stuff is highly toxicity ... scary. Crying I can't count the number of times I've had to stick my hand down their throats to retrieve that stuff!! Bo really has a taste for it and although we thought we got it all up when we moved here, he's still able to find pieces up next to the house. Grumbling I haven't yet found anything that dog won't eat! Years ago, my parents had a German Shepherd that would eat anything you put in his dish except green peas! it was so funny watching him; he'd take his nose and move the peas to the side and that's what would be left when he'd finish eating and walk away. My husband says it sounds like me because I do not like peas and will pick them out of pot pies, etc. so there will be a little pile of peas left on my plate. Rolling on the floor laughing
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sooby
Apr 28, 2017 3:03 PM CST
I don't think it is Glechoma, the spot where the petiole joins the leaf doesn't look right, not indented enough. Also the colour doesn't look right.

What is with golden retrievers and eating everything? We have one now, had other breeds before, and never had such a four-legged vacuum cleaner. Retrieving unsuitable stuff from his mouth is a daily occurrence, I thought it was the dog that was supposed to be the retriever Hilarious!
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purpleinopp
Apr 28, 2017 4:05 PM CST
LOL @ last 2 posts!
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ctcarol
Apr 28, 2017 4:13 PM CST
I had a poodle that would lick the peas off and leave them in his dish, but he didn't hesitate to pick and eat strawberries and loved carrots. It isn't just goldens.
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Jai_Ganesha
Apr 28, 2017 9:50 PM CST
Poodles are my spirit animal. I babysit one (my current picture) who is a multi-time formal show winner but whom the trainers describe as "pretty" because she's extremely dumb.

If you don't put her food on the plate in just the right way she doesn't realize she's supposed to eat it. She weighs about 5 pounds and also chases deer and horses as though she's going to kill them and bring them home for supper.
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sooby
Apr 29, 2017 7:35 AM CST
I've had poodles and they do like their fruits and veggies although I seem to recall one of mine had an aversion to peas also. But those are "normal" food items, this golden doesn't differentiate. He'll pick up anything that comes in front of his face and try to eat it. I'm certain he'd join in with Lin's rubber mulch.

Did we eliminate the ordinary Nepeta cataria as an ID? I'm thinking the young leaves are less elongated than the mature ones but don't have one around to check. I will try and remember to look around for one.

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