Cactus and Tender Succulents forum: Succulent Help and Identification!!

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jtaylor37
Apr 27, 2017 2:31 AM CST
Hi, I recieved these two pieces of a succulent from someone that I know and I was wondering if you could tell me the species of the plant along with where and how to plant and take care of these so that they are able to grow and thrive. Thank you!!
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purpleinopp
Apr 28, 2017 8:45 AM CST
How fun! Looks like something from Oscularia or Corpuscularia genus. IDK them well enough to suggest a specific species. Any chance of getting a pic of the mama plant?
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DaisyI
Apr 28, 2017 10:53 AM CST
At least one of those looks like it is going to bloom. That will help with a positive ID.

They look like what we used to called "Dead Man's Fingers". They were used on the coast to help keep the sand where it belonged. The flowers looked like little yellow daisies (I think they were yellow... Smiling )

The leaves were trianglular in cross section.
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tarev
Apr 28, 2017 11:04 AM CST
Hello jtaylor37! Sorry don't know its name, but just callus that fresh end there, you can also dab some light cinnamon as fungicide and then stick to very well draining soil - cacti mix with pumice or perlite added to it to make it really gritty. Use container with drainage holes and preferably wide and shallow and not too big and deep. Position that plant in part sun to acclimate well, or if you weather does not permit it yet, in your sunniest window area.

If it were mine, I would further cut each stem, callus and then plant. Seems rather etiolated with its growth as it is. If you do cut, make sure your container is really smaller for now. Since there are no roots yet, just stick it in the soil, prop some rocks around to help it stand, and give it a few more days. Then water to make the soil just moist and leave it alone. In time it will make new roots to anchor itself properly.
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Baja_Costero
Apr 28, 2017 11:25 AM CST

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Yes, it looks like maybe an ice plant. Push the bottom half-inch of stem into well draining soil, put in bright shade, and water when the soil is going dry. Without knowing the name of the plant it's hard to say whether it's stretching but I suspect not too much, and I would not reduce the size of the cuttings. Just be sure to provide bright light (indoors right by a sunny window for example, outdoors in very bright shade or filtered light for starters) and keep an eye out for new growth, which usually signals the plant has developed some roots.
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DaisyI
Apr 28, 2017 12:32 PM CST
Yes, ice plant. Either yellow or pink flowers. I think what jtaylor37 has are bloom stems. Will they grow?
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Baja_Costero
Apr 28, 2017 1:01 PM CST

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The ice plants that I have seen do not make bloom stems per se, like an inflorescence which dies off afterwards. My experience is limited to about 10 or 12 of the mat-forming plants, of which this looks like one. Those stems look like they are branching in a good way. The new growth will come mostly from the branches (only from the branches on the left cutting, which is broken).

Your basic Carpobrotus = highway ice plant has triangular leaves and makes yellow or purple flowers. That's the most common ice plant around here. Very weedy in our climate.

In addition to the ones which grow as annual weeds (Mesembryanthemum), there are quite a few different ice plants in use locally for groundcover, because they tend to be pretty drought resistant and nearly all make a dramatic show of flowers once a year.
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plantmanager
Apr 28, 2017 1:31 PM CST
I just wish ice plant flowers could be bred to last longer. I had a gorgeous one that put on a show every January, but after that it was pretty blah. Eventually I took it out since it was taking up a lot of space I could use for other things.
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Baja_Costero
Apr 28, 2017 1:43 PM CST

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They will tend to do that. One great plus of these plants is how fast they can fill up space, but unfortunately that also tends to be a minus. The solution I've arrived at is to prune them back ruthlessly, and deny them water during our dry summers so that they stop growing so fast. They do about 80% of their growing during our winter storms. That's certainly when they root most aggressively.
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purpleinopp
Apr 28, 2017 4:23 PM CST
Ice plant is one of those frustrating nicknames to me because every time, if the discussion progresses far enough, I realize people are talking about different plants. About as vague as discussing "daisies" or "lilies" as a single entity.

"ice plant" https://garden.org/plants/sear...
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Baja_Costero
Apr 28, 2017 6:09 PM CST

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It's a useful term to refer to the entire family (Aizoaceae), about 2000 species in total. It rolls off the tongue better than the family name, the old one anyway, and tends to change less often. Smiling
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DaisyI
Apr 28, 2017 8:03 PM CST
Yes, they've been 'ice plants' for as long as I can remember. Those other names (Aizoaceae, Ficoidacea...) come and go.
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purpleinopp
Apr 29, 2017 6:20 AM CST
TYVM for the explanations.
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purpleinopp
May 5, 2017 3:02 PM CST
I read through this again and am still not sure. Is the consensus that it is some species of Carpobrotus?
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Baja_Costero
May 5, 2017 3:50 PM CST

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I don't know.

Here are photos of Carpobrotus edulis in the public garden. I see some differences. But I wouldn't be able to say. To be honest I'm not that interested in these plants beyond the few I know. There are two Carpobrotuses locally (difference is purple flowers).

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A few other mat-forming ice plants out there. They mostly finished flowering, which helps when you want to see the leaves. (For the record the flowers are red, yellow, purple, yellow, red, red.) These pictures are not going to help with the ID question, they're just an illustration of the ice plants which I have found useful for groundcover. The classic Carpobrotus planting is on a slope for erosion control. These other plants are functional equivalents. Last one is the relatively common Aptenia cordifolia.

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They are ideally suited for steep slopes and sandy/rocky soil, and really help with erosion control.

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Finally here are two annual ice plants which are native to South Africa and also grow into mats over time. Second picture shows one invading coastal succulent habitat.

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DaisyI
May 5, 2017 3:57 PM CST
Whatever Baja said. Smiling But we agree that its an ice plant.
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purpleinopp
May 5, 2017 4:13 PM CST
TYVM, Baja! That helps a lot! These genera are totally new to me. I'd only heard ice plant connected to Delosperma. I'd love to see any of them in person!
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