Irises forum: The quest for answers... NOIDS 2017

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Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
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Henhouse
May 3, 2017 4:18 PM CST
I've been searching for a name for this lovely Iris that was on the property when I came here 20 years ago.. I've looked at countless pictures of possibilities, and nothing has matched.. but that didn't deter me... I bought a few over the years to compare.. and there are one or two left to try.. But here's where I am..
My NOID:

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'Amigo's Guitar' is too blue/purple


'Gypsy Lullaby' is close, but doesn't have the brownish edge on the falls and hafts
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I was hopeful that 'Sail Master' was going to be the one... but alas.... although it has the edging, it's too purple/blue...
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I have yet to try 'Dutch Master', which doesn't look like it's got the blue on the tip of the beard..

'Gala Madrid' is too bright


I think 'Milestone' is my best bet at this point..


Debra, I can't remember if the rhizome I sent you has bloomed.. I was thinking you matched it to 'Sail Master', but I'm getting pretty good at mis-remembering things.. perhaps it *was* Milestone..??

In any case, it's been a journey.. All these Iris were instrumental in breeding in the 60's and 70's with hundreds and hundreds of offspring.
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Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Irises Keeper of Poultry Roses Dragonflies Birds
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Henhouse
May 3, 2017 4:59 PM CST
.. and then there's this plicata
Gosh, what a great, reliable grower this has been.. I've moved it all around the garden because it looks so good with everything.. For years I thought it was 'Stepping Out' until someone pointed out the differences.
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'Stepping Out'
See, not even close...
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Someone thought it might be 'Classic Look'... nope CL is lighter, flower is smaller, beard is lighter, and opens later
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'First Stitch' has a broader band.
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'Patriotic Heart' has not bloomed yet for me.. but remains in the running


Another suggestion is 'Loop the Loop', but I think it's too tall and the form is wrong...


I know chances are slim of matching a purple plicata, but it's fun (sort of Whistling ) trying..
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Los Altos, CA (Zone 9b)
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AndreaD
May 3, 2017 5:31 PM CST
How about Creative Stitchery?

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Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Irises Keeper of Poultry Roses Dragonflies Birds
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Henhouse
May 3, 2017 5:49 PM CST
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'Harvest Faire' has been suggested as a possibility... Unfortunately, most of the pictures are from BlueJ.. and I know their colors have been off in the past... I'm not sure.. It may be a little more modern ('97) than I was thinking... Might be worth a try to order though...


The fifth picture here from Country Delights has the color match to the standards on mine.
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Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
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lovemyhouse
May 3, 2017 5:50 PM CST
Sherry, I think we were talking about Milestone, but they don't seem to match to me. Here is my Milestone, then the one from you.
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The best part of that Plicata is how narrow the band is and how clean the rest of the Falls look. Lovey dubby
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Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Totally_Amazing
May 3, 2017 6:01 PM CST
Sherry,
Your first Noid is like "Fresh as Paint". I have only ever seen it in the Yarrabee Catalog and I found another image online:

https://www.google.com.au/sear...:

http://www.yarrabeegardenandir...
(there is an image in the catalog)
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Irises Keeper of Poultry Roses Dragonflies Birds
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Henhouse
May 3, 2017 6:08 PM CST
Andrea,
I saw your picture of 'Creative Stitchery' the other day and thought that it might be a possibility.. It's the right height and bloom time..
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Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Irises Keeper of Poultry Roses Dragonflies Birds
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Henhouse
May 3, 2017 6:23 PM CST
Oh. My. Gosh. Robin!! I think you nailed it.
Interesting that I can only find it on Aussie sites given that it was hybridized about 40 minutes away from me...
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UndertheSun
May 3, 2017 7:42 PM CST
Henhouse said:
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It looks a lot like Rare Treat to me.

Name: Jane H.
Kentucky (Zone 6b)
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janielouy
May 3, 2017 8:14 PM CST
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This one is just blooming.
Any thoughts on this NOID? Really crazy looking with stiff horns on the end of orange beards with that slight flush up the standards. Very Old Gold in color. Got it from either Dee or PNW sale as Sassy Tart. Never have seen anything like it before.
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Irises Keeper of Poultry Roses Dragonflies Birds
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Henhouse
May 3, 2017 11:55 PM CST
Rob, 'Rare Treat' is one I'm waiting to bloom too.. Thanks... I couldn't think of the name of that one Smiling
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UndertheSun
May 4, 2017 12:16 AM CST
Does anyone recognize this iris? It has pbf if that helps narrow it down.

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The close up of the beard is more true to color than the bloom photo.



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Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Irises Keeper of Poultry Roses Dragonflies Birds
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Henhouse
May 4, 2017 12:50 AM CST
Could this be Cloud Palace? It definitely is not 'Osaka', as labeled...
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Name: Celia
West Valley City, Utah (Zone 7a)
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Zencat
May 4, 2017 7:38 AM CST
I have this one from my SIL in OR.

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Bottom right and took 4 years to bloom. Probably from Shreiner's but I can't find it on their site.
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Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Irises Keeper of Poultry Roses Dragonflies Birds
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Henhouse
May 4, 2017 8:12 AM CST
Wow, Is that Mary Frances next to it? It reminds me of 'Sooner Serenade', but doesn't have the lighter edge on the falls. How long has your SIL had it?
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Name: Celia
West Valley City, Utah (Zone 7a)
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Zencat
May 4, 2017 8:34 AM CST
She's had that for about 15 years, I think. The one next to it is Full Tide. My clay soil makes it more lavender.

It doesn't have the band or ruffles Sooner Serenade does.
Name: daphne
san diego county, ca (Zone 10a)
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shizen
May 4, 2017 8:58 PM CST
celia, who s the 'cutie' guarding nodding your irises?
springfield MO area (Zone 6a)
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Frillylily
May 4, 2017 9:55 PM CST
Henhouse said:I've been searching for a name for this lovely Iris that was on the property when I came here 20 years ago.. I've looked at countless pictures of possibilities, and nothing has matched.. but that didn't deter me... I bought a few over the years to compare.. and there are one or two left to try.. But here's where I am..
My NOID:

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I think 'Milestone' is my best bet at this point..


Edit. oh I see now maybe you have an ID. I think that looks grand! Tall Bearded Iris (Iris 'Fresh as Paint')
says '71, so even though, hard to find now maybe, back in its day it may have been a common one sold more widely. There is no photo of it in the database unfortunately.
I agree on Rare Treat also, I was going to post that but see someone else suggested that as well.


I know I'm late to the party, but to burst your bubble, Milestone has a beard that is all one color and yours has a beard that changes color... so it does not match your NOID. ?
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Name: Celia
West Valley City, Utah (Zone 7a)
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Zencat
May 5, 2017 12:58 AM CST
Daphne, that's Sebastian. Sadly, he is no longer with us. He developed a deadly crack in his spine and 'died.' Thumbs down I miss him.
Name: Marilyn
Central California (Zone 9b)
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Moiris
May 5, 2017 1:27 AM CST
Henhouse said:.. and then there's this plicata
Gosh, what a great, reliable grower this has been.. I've moved it all around the garden because it looks so good with everything.. For years I thought it was 'Stepping Out' until someone pointed out the differences.
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I know it's a long shot but the photos of this one show it in several shades of purple including a light lavender. It's a cross of Rare Treat and American Classic. It sometimes has the purple stripe up the standard and sometimes has the wider rim on the standards. The thing that caught my attention was the full ruffled falls. The database photos vary quite a bit.





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