Plant Database forum: Narcissus tazetta var. odoratus query.

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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Dec 1, 2011 2:38 PM CST
This is a diffuclt one, I bought the bulbs from a small nursery onine here which specialise in species bulbs, but they don't have it listed now although it comes up in a google.

On Pacific Bulb Society there is only Narcissus tazetta listed but showing some natural wild subspecies or forms.

http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Narcissu...

The RHS has two places which offered this, one being miniaturebulbs where I got mine from, the other is a specialist grower which I know has been in the business for a long time and passed down through the family. They haven't got it listed now either, mine didn't live so I guess their's didn't do well but they do keep old varieties going and from what I have previously read they know their stuff.

http://apps.rhs.org.uk/rhsplantfinder/pfregions.asp?ID=20792...

THe RHS states the name is not found in literature, but they don't state the name is not accepted.

http://apps.rhs.org.uk/horticulturaldatabase/hortdatabase.as...

Daffseek has it listed as 'Odoratus' and is a tazetta species, it sounds to be the same one as the apricot scent and being found on the Isles of Scilly was mentioned in the description when I bought it. This is giving it a capital as though it is a named hybrid, which doesn't seem correct to me if it was 'found' on the Isles of Scilly ( a small group of islands off the south west tip of Cornwall England)

None of the photos look like mine, but I feel the suppliers do offer correctly named bulbs.

http://daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?value1=Odoratus&l...

The flowers were very small but the stem grew fairly tall..

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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Dec 3, 2011 8:26 PM CST
I've decided to ask for an entry for Narcissus tazetta var. odoratus, the RHS does have it listed and doesn't say it's not accepted.
Name: Anthony Gloriosoides[ sure!]
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gwhizz
Dec 3, 2011 10:19 PM CST
Im sure i've seen it here, but i will do my best to find out from a renowned miniature breeder,.,.in a few weeks
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Dec 4, 2011 6:37 AM CST
Thanks Anthony, as it was found here originally and there's people who have passed on what they know through generations in the business I would say it's a fair bet. Breeders of these rarer bulbs are sure to share their knowledge worldwide too! There's some people in the business here who are very savvy.

A named 'cultivar' has a capital letter as they use on daffseek, but this is not a cultivar, it's a variety of the species.
Name: Anthony Gloriosoides[ sure!]
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
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gwhizz
Dec 4, 2011 10:25 PM CST
According to the'yoda' of miniature daffodils,definately not 'Narcissus tazetta var odoratus', .[which he drew a fine freehand sketch of] but all is not lost,.,.what you might have is 'Narcissus Odorus Rugulosus'[campernelle]. which he gave a full description of,.,.So i even learned something as well-Anthony
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Dec 5, 2011 6:06 AM CST
Well I searched for that Anthony, I very much doubt it. Broadleigh bulbs have it and it's totally different! Many people here who have these nurseries are real plants people, often with horticultural qualifications.

http://www.broadleigh-bulbs-autumn.co.uk/cgi-bin/cp-app.cgi?...

http://www.paghat.com/narcissuscampernelle.html

http://www.canadaplants.ca/display.php?id=1228

http://www.plantpress.com/plant-encyclopedia/plantdb.php?pla...

http://www.classicdaffodils.com/product/view/?name=Narc-Odor...

Sorry, but I do trust the people who sold it to have it correctly named.
Name: Anthony Gloriosoides[ sure!]
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
idont havemuch-but ihave everything
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gwhizz
Dec 6, 2011 2:46 AM CST
Yes! looks like he may be wrong,..,but i think you will find his qualifications worldwide,.,.anyway,sorry!
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Dec 6, 2011 10:21 AM CST
That's OK, I always make sure myself anyway and I appreciate anyone's input.

And your Tas Devil big growling face with gimongous teeth hasn't scared me one little bit! He (or she) is quite cute. Rolling on the floor laughing

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