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May 6, 2017 1:51 PM CST
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 9a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
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May 6, 2017 5:00 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
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Indeed! Beautiful shots!
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May 6, 2017 11:42 PM CST
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 9a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
thank you Carol
i was hoping someone who knows Viburnums would see and comment on the specie
i can not find a Viburnum Shasta in the data base like this one
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May 7, 2017 7:58 AM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
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May 7, 2017 9:58 PM CST
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 9a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
thank you
Gardens are a thing of Beauty and a job forever
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May 8, 2017 8:25 AM CST
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 9a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
mistake
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May 8, 2017 9:26 AM CST
Name: John
Scott County, KY (Zone 5b)
You can't have too many viburnums..
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Well, a shout across country is heard!

Honestly, if I were you, I'd just cut down that mangey excuse for carbon storage and start over...probably wouldn't even start a decent fire.

Per your comment about the database images: there are not as many in ATP/National Gardening's file for 'Shasta' as you might find other places. What exactly is your question about the plant you've shown?

Your plant is showing classic Viburnum plicatum f. tomentosum characteristics - heavy flowering, big sterile florets/bracts surrounding the fertile flowers in the lacecap blooms. You are in northern California somewhere, so I'm presuming everything performs better there than in the rest of the world. At least better than hot humid central KY limestone soils which dry out to concrete every summer.

Inquiring minds want to know...
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May 10, 2017 2:24 AM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
Wow, that's gorgeous, Dick !! Wish I had room for one...or two. I inherited a bunch of stuff from Rebecca when she shut down her nursery...and did get one viburnum, but not that one !
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
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May 11, 2017 4:58 PM CST
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 9a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
thank you very much John
so you are verifying for me that it is Shasta ? if so i will post the images in the database
and i will get more images of the berries in Aug
btw: it is approx 8ft tall and maybe 15ft wide
and John yes i am in as far North in Calif as you can imagine near the Oregon border

and thank you Sherry
i wish i had gotten up and seen what Rebecca had but i was tied up
is your Viburnum in bloom ?

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i measured it and it is 12ft tall and 20ft wide
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May 11, 2017 5:18 PM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
I'm sure that a lot of people miss Rebecca's nursery...she carried all the good unusual stuff. No, my Viburnum is still in a 5 gallon and not in bloom and not a specatcular one...I have a tiny lot and a lot of plants...LOL...

Hope you are well.......
I could be wrong...
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"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
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May 11, 2017 8:26 PM CST
Name: John
Scott County, KY (Zone 5b)
You can't have too many viburnums..
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I don't know that I could confirm that your plant absolutely is 'Shasta' - but that is likely if it is a planted/cultivated specimen, versus a chance seedling.

'Shasta' and 'Mariesii' are the most commonly available selections in the eastern United States, both being quite floriferous and showy in fruit. There are other selections that show hints of pink in their flowers ('Molly Schroeder' being one), but that is about the only difference with many named plants.

The important note for Viburnum aficionados: most viburnum individual plants are shy to self-pollinate - meaning they are poorly self-fertile despite having perfect/monoecious flowers. You will want to have a different (non clonal) Doublefile Viburnum growing nearby that can/will cross-pollinate your plant in order to have maximum fruit display. A 'Shasta' and a 'Mariesii' make a great couple.

Fifteen feet wide? And that isn't even bragging, for northern California, I bet. Someday, someday...
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Jun 8, 2017 2:45 PM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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Jul 5, 2017 3:29 PM CST
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 9a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
July and the flowers are gone
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but there seem to be some berries developing
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i'm sure they will turn red in the next cpl months
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Jul 5, 2017 4:29 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
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Does anything besides birds and bugs eat the berries?
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Jul 5, 2017 6:56 PM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
Oh, how swiftly Time passes...sigh...All Things Must Pass...
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"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
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Jul 5, 2017 7:31 PM CST
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 9a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
not sure the birds eat those berries Carol
i will try to pay better attention Smiling
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Jul 5, 2017 10:02 PM CST
Name: John
Scott County, KY (Zone 5b)
You can't have too many viburnums..
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I guess it depends on your birds. If you have other things they like more, I suspect they'll go that route.

People CAN eat the fruit, if you choose to. Should you want to, wait till they mature to black when they are soft, sweet, and kind of prune-y in flavor.

And when you come around to planting another one for cross-pollination, here's how you'll be rewarded - and all your fruit fanciers...


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Jul 5, 2017 11:38 PM CST
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 9a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
Wow John
the blue Jays would really feast on those, we have a cherry tree and they don't leave us very many those
i guess i need to get in gear and find another one
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Jul 6, 2017 11:33 AM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
Bookworm Charter ATP Member Region: California Hummingbirder Orchids Plant Identifier
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It's a lovely landscape plant in any case. Looks like it would take an awful lot of berries to get a mouthful for anything larger than a bird.
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Jul 6, 2017 12:44 PM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
You just reminded me to go out right now and eat some blueberries as they're ripening...lol..
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....

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