Daylilies forum: Petit Daylilies...Bud Count?

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Name: Amber
Missouri (Zone 6a)
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May 7, 2017 6:33 PM CST
How come most of the Petit daylilies don't have a bud count listed in the database or on AHS? Is bud count not a required statistic? To me, bud count is very important in my decision of which daylily to buy. I have limited funds, so I want to get daylilies that will give me the most bang for my buck. I really like the look of some Petit daylilies, but I have shied away from them since they don't have a BC listed. Do any of you have experience with Petit cultivars? If so, what is the general bud count for you?
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Name: Virginia Harmon
Woodside, CA 94062 (Zone 8b)
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May 7, 2017 7:16 PM CST
The bud count is listed on their website.
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Name: Julie
Roanoke, VA (Zone 7a)
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May 9, 2017 6:35 AM CST
ALso, hopefully we all know to take bud counts with a grain of salt. What a breeder sees in his or her home garden may not necessarily be what you see, particularly if you live several zones north of where the plant was bred. For those plants bred in Florida, which is TWO Climate zones warmer than where I live, I subtract 5 buds per zone north, as Melanie. Mason suggested years ago. Thus, if a BC is listed as 30 in FL, it would be realistic for me to expect a BC of 20 here. Additionally, some selling gardens water and fertilize on almost a daily basis, which is not the optimum growth condition of most normal gardens.
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
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May 9, 2017 6:54 AM CST
I had not heard that before about subtracting bud counts for zones. That totally makes sense. Years ago I purchased Maxfield Parrish because it was supposed to have 50 buds. Not so here in the north. It still has a pretty decent count though and blooms a long time.
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Name: Gale
CentralWa (Zone 6a)
May 9, 2017 7:12 PM CST
My second order a few year back, I used bud count as the #1 emphasis for choosing a Daylily. Some had registered bud counts over 40. All of these were hybridized well South of my Central Washington home, and the bud counts after three bloom season is still on average, less than half. I think floota is correct, maybe worse, however, I have Northern bred Daylilies that are close to registered bud count, and my best bud counts are on my seedlings, with several in the mid 30's, despite some of the parents being Southern bred. Hope this helps a little.
Name: Amber
Missouri (Zone 6a)
Daylilies Region: Missouri Garden Photography
May 10, 2017 10:47 PM CST
Awesome information! I knew that bud count would differ because of climates and garden conditions, but it's nice to have at least a ball park idea of just how much it might change. I do take bud count into consideration, but I try to do it when comparing cultivars from like zones. So if I see two southern raised daylilies, one with a bud count of 40 and one with a bud count of 25, then I will likely choose the first one...still knowing that I won't see the 40 count in my mid-central garden.
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