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Orange County, Ca (Zone 9b)
Brenorangecountyca
May 9, 2017 12:37 AM CST
Hi I'm Bren. I'm new to this website. I started grafting over 30 plumeria this year. I'm going to share my experience since late February, until now.
I'm growing my plumerias in Orange County ca. I started with V grafts and now I'm doing diagonal cut grafts. I've learned that February was a little to soon to start grafts because of the cold temperatures at night and the rain. I was at a 50% success rate doing V grafts from February 21st to early march.
Some grafts got really soft and mushy after 10 days and some after 20 days. Out of the first 30 or so , 15 have survived. I started doing diagonal cut grafts April 7th and all are doing great. I do grafting once or twice a week. I have over sixty plants. My 12 year old celedine that's in the ground has 15 different plumeria grafts on it. Then I have 7 large plumeria with several tips grafted. I'm going to post pictures of several grafts over the next few weeks.
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Orange County, Ca (Zone 9b)
Brenorangecountyca
May 9, 2017 9:15 AM CST
Here are a few things that I've learned through trial and error. You must have white sap flowing from the host plant and the tip your grafting or the graft will fail and die. If your doing V cut grafts on a horizontal branch, then you'll need to use a short tip for grafting because longer tips are heavier and will separate from the graft point. If your doing diagonal cut grafts on horizontal branches then you can use longer and thicker tips because the 2 zip-ties I use to hold the diagonal graft together are very strong and support the graft cut over a 2" to 3" distance. I only will use the V cut if the branch is vertical because the grafts own weight pushes down on the connection. I learned from David Mora's YouTube video on how to do V grafts. I use the same tape to seal my grafts. Smith-and-nephew-opsite-flexifix-transparent-tape. You can buy on Amazon.
After wrapping the graft joint with two overlapping flexifix tapes, I then wrap tightly with black electrical tape. I was using a roll green gardening tape to wrap my first 30 grafts but I learned that water and moisture where getting in and rotting my graft joints. So I've switched to electrical tape because it seals the graft joint very well. I've done around 20 new grafts from April 7th until may 7th and not one had rotted or shown any signs of dying. The third pic is the same graft as the first pic but with the green tape removed and it's 38 days old.
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Orange County, Ca (Zone 9b)
Brenorangecountyca
May 9, 2017 9:10 PM CST
Here are some more pics of my first grafts this year. I used a drywall tool to cut the V-cut.
I grafted a Kimo onto my celedine march 3rd. I will post a picture of this graft now that it's been 2 months.

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Orange County, Ca (Zone 9b)
Brenorangecountyca
May 9, 2017 9:19 PM CST
Here is a picture of one of my diagonal grafts. I use a zip-tie to hold the graft perfectly together so I can put my clear medical tape on. After I tightly wrap my first clear tape around the bottom portion of the cut. I then cut off the zip-tie and wrap the second piece of clear tape so that it overlaps the first piece of tape and the top portion of the graft cut. I then wrap black electrical tape around all of that and put two zip-ties around bottom and top portion of the diagonal cut.
This pic is before I've put the clear tape on.
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Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Dutchlady1
May 10, 2017 7:23 AM CST

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Welcome! Bren. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
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May 10, 2017 7:50 AM CST
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Orange County, Ca (Zone 9b)
Brenorangecountyca
May 10, 2017 9:19 AM CST
I've been reading all your stories for a few years now.
So I thought I would share some of mine. Thank you everyone for providing information on the plumeria. I'm sure like me, you are all very much in love with the plumeria. I'm really excited to post pics of my grafts in the next few months. Several have leaves growing from the tips.
Orange County, Ca (Zone 9b)
Brenorangecountyca
May 12, 2017 12:58 AM CST
Here are some pics of my 8 week old grafts with the green tape removed. First pic is intense rainbow. Second pic is India on the left and Kimo on the right. Third pic is Fuji mist.
Fourth pic is my new grafts, done may 10th. Grafted Dean Conklin, intense rainbow and a all yellow variety.
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Name: kbuntu
Puerto Vallarta, Mexico (Zone 13a)
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kbuntu
May 12, 2017 12:27 PM CST
Nice looking grafts! Thumbs up
Orange County, Ca (Zone 9b)
Brenorangecountyca
May 13, 2017 8:46 PM CST
Hi plumeria lovers. Go on YouTube and type in grafting plumeria by Bren and you can find 4 videos I posted about my grafting.
Orange County, Ca (Zone 9b)
Brenorangecountyca
May 24, 2017 3:56 PM CST
Here is another graft of mine.
I'm experimenting and having fun. I decided to try an drill into a plumeria stem with a half inch drill bit and insert a graft into that hole. I used a Kimo tip and grafted it into my celedine. The Kimo is not as wide as the celedine. Not sure if this will work. I will show you pics of the graft and also will provide pics after a month or so. This graft was done may 19th.
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Name: James
Anacortes, WA (Zone 8b)
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JamesAcclaims
May 24, 2017 4:33 PM CST
Interesting idea! I've never seen a graft done like that. Definitely post pics. I don't know why it wouldn't work.
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Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Dutchlady1
May 25, 2017 4:47 AM CST

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Matching up the cambium layers is key to successful grafting; let's hope that enough of it matches up so it will take.
Orange County, Ca (Zone 9b)
Brenorangecountyca
May 26, 2017 9:08 AM CST
I will be super happy if the Kimo graft works James.
Hetty, your so right about cambium layers needing to match up tightly. I had several v-grafts that I did too early in February and the v-graft joint separated a 1/8th of a inch and grey mold was present. The grafts appeared to be good after 2 months and the tiny red claws where growing and there was no soft mushy stem rot. So I though my grafts where good but I didn't see anymore leaf growth in the next few weeks besides the tiny red claws appearing to grow a tiny bit. Then I noticed the beginning of new tiny stems growing below the grafts and I knew for sure that the grafts didn't take. That's when I made the decision to remove the grafts after 10 weeks and each graft had that grey mold all over the cambium layers. All the grafts that have no tiny stems growing below the graft joint, are all growing large leaves.
Orange County, Ca (Zone 9b)
Brenorangecountyca
May 26, 2017 9:16 AM CST
I went upland nursery in Tustin California yesterday.
They have grafted plumeria trees with 8-10 different varieties. They have several grafted plumeria plants. They have been doing v-grafts for years. They told me to remove my electrical tape or green gardening tape 2 weeks after the graft is done because that way the graft can breathe and not get stem rot or the grey mold I've experienced. I was amazed by them telling me that because every single person on the internet and YouTube have said to leave the tape on for a month to two months because you don't want moisture or water getting into the graft! So I decided to pull the tape off of my may 5th slant grafts on may 25th and they are holding together perfect and look great. Also they said to not start grafting in Southern California until mid -March because of the weather. I learned my lesson by starting too early this year and it rained a lot.
Here is a pic of a upland nursery grafted plumeria. If you look closely you can see all the v-grafts.

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Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Dutchlady1
May 26, 2017 9:38 AM CST

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Florida Colors uses grafting bands (non-vulcanized rubber) over regular green tape. The magic with that is that the rubber bands fall off by themselves because they deteriorate in sunlight. So no need to worry about removing the tape. It has worked for them for many years.
Orange County, Ca (Zone 9b)
Brenorangecountyca
May 26, 2017 10:08 PM CST
Thanks Hetty. Florida colors are pros. I got a pops red last month from them and it had that red rubber band. It's a good idea.
Orange County, Ca (Zone 9b)
Brenorangecountyca
May 26, 2017 10:14 PM CST
So today may 26th, I removed the electrical tape from several of my may 5th slant grafts and v-grafts. Here are some pics.
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Orange County, Ca (Zone 9b)
Brenorangecountyca
May 26, 2017 10:21 PM CST
In a earlier post I showed pics and talked about a Kimo graft where I used a drill bit to drill into the plumeria stem and insert the graft into the hole. I did that graft may 19th and I will show more pics of its success or failure. The next pic is of a Pele graft I did the exact same way with a drill bit. This graft was done may 3rd. So it's over 3 weeks old now. Not sure if it will work. I hope it does work. Looks good so far.
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Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
Plumerias Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Database Moderator
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Dutchlady1
May 27, 2017 9:33 AM CST

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Your healed grafts are looking good Thumbs up

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