Plant ID forum: tree ID - Lenticels on Tree Trunk

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zaca
May 9, 2017 4:08 PM CST
I would like to identify the shrub/tree on the photos and I will appreciate any help.
Thanks in advance, Smiling
zaca
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Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
May 9, 2017 4:38 PM CST
Can you tell us where in the world this tree is located?

Did you see flowers? If so, can you describe them?
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zaca
May 9, 2017 4:42 PM CST
Sorry, I forgot the location data (see below).
I didn't see flowers on the tree.
Thanks,
zaca
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Location data:
Continent: Europe
Country: Portugal
City: Lisboa (or Lisbon, capital of the country
Place: Parque de Monsanto (big park at the boundary of the city)
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
May 10, 2017 10:54 AM CST
I wonder about a Laurus but I'm not sure the fruits are the right shape although they are close. Do you have any pictures that more clearly show if the leaves are alternate or opposite, zaca, or do you remember from when you looked at it?

zaca
May 10, 2017 5:28 PM CST
Hi sooby,
Thanks for your opinion.
I didn't observe the leaf position. I have another photo of the tree that I upload now; looking at it it seems to me that the leaves appear as opposite at some places, but I'm not 100% sure. Please look yourself.
Regards,
zaca
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zaca
May 10, 2017 6:10 PM CST
Sooby, can this be Viburnum tinus?
I made a search for trees with opposite leaves and one of the genus cited was Viburnum.
Them I looked for more information and saw the following links:
Leaf and fruits - http://group5ive.weebly.com/la...
Trunk - http://publish.plantnet-projec...
In this last one some photos of the trunk appear at the botom of the page and looks very similar.
The leaf and the fruits also have a similar shape.
Regards,
zaca
Name: Sue
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sooby
May 10, 2017 6:35 PM CST
That might be why the fruits look familiar, we used to have one years ago in England. How tall is the shrub? I was thinking it might be too big but hard to tell from a picture. I did wonder about it when I was going through my trees and shrubs book of the Mediterranean and saw it there. In my mind your plant was too big and at that time I wasn't sure if the leaves were opposite, but apparently it can go to about 11 feet. Maybe John @ViburnumValley can comment.

zaca
May 11, 2017 2:28 AM CST
Thanks, sooby.
Concerning the size I can only estimate that was about 3-4 meters high.
The biggest shrub in these aggregate could had a diameter of about 10 cm.
Regards,
zaca
Name: John
Scott County, KY (Zone 5b)
You can't have too many viburnums..
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ViburnumValley
May 11, 2017 2:38 PM CST
I think you both are in the right frame of ID mind. It appears to have terminal inflorescences that are forming fruit now, with opposite arrangement of simple leaves. I don't know my Mediterranean species as well (not many grow here in Kentucky), but I'd say that fits for an evergreen Viburnum of which Viburnum tinus is a quite common species.

Observe the maturing fruit, and take more pictures if you visit the tree again - noting to show the WHOLE plant (with something for scale, like a person) and then the arrangement of leaves along the stems, too.

Opposite v. alternate should always be a common starting point for identification...
John

zaca
May 11, 2017 5:25 PM CST
Thanks, John, for your comment.
Sorry for my inexperience in dealing with identification of plants.
I will try to follow your advice and revisite the plant in summer time, when the fruits will reach maturity.
Regards,
zaca

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