Cactus and Tender Succulents forum: Turquoise Succulents and Rosary Vine

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Garden10
May 10, 2017 11:41 AM CST
I've seen some examples of turquoise-shaded succulents, including an aloe, but couldn't get any information about them that I trust so would you tell me, are there any that would thrive outside in my zone, or would do OK inside the house, especially given the level of my expertise, which is, as you know, minimal.

Also, Rosary Vine, I've seen so much about it that says that it's easy to grow and needs so little care that I'm terribly suspicious. I prefer having succulents as houseplants, and this would be beautiful -- any thoughts and advice, as always, very much appreciated Thank You!
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Baja_Costero
May 11, 2017 9:43 AM CST

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I'm not so sure about turquoise (my tastes run more to baby blue) but there are a number of powder-dusted succulents with a bluish cast. The ones I know are cold sensitive but you could try growing one inside. Here are a few glaucous blue Echeverias by way of illustration.

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The powder acts like a natural sunscreen to shield the leaves from the effects of the sun, and usually is more intense when plants are in the sun. When these plants are growing indoors you need to provide as much light as possible, like right by an unobstructed sunny window, both for the best color (more light = more blue powder) and the best form (Echeverias demand strong light). The first plant above is a seedling that was mostly green when I had it indoors, then developed these other colors outside in the sun. In the end you will have to do your own experiments to see what works for you.

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webesemps
May 11, 2017 9:46 AM CST
Beautiful examples, Baja!
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Baja_Costero
May 11, 2017 1:29 PM CST

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Just washed clean by the rain! Green Grin!

There's lots of powder blue succulents out there. You could do a whole garden of only powder blue succulents if you wanted. Dudleyas, which are native to the region, are often well dusted. Like the first plant.

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Out in the garden... a bunch of sun-loving plants here probably best appreciated from a distance, rather than attempted indoors. Smiling

Agaves
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Aloes
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More Echeveria relatives
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Garden10
May 11, 2017 5:35 PM CST
Baja, are you KIDDING? That would be impressive if you just collected photos as examples, but from your own garden... Sighing! Amazing AND intimidating!

This is the deal about the turquoise -- I plant "angel colors," colors that represent archangels, and they're all common colors except turquoise. @joannakat searched turquoise plant images, and there were some beautiful flowers and plants, and some of them were succulents, including an aloe. I want to get an aloe for the house anyway, and I thought it would add interest outside if I had a succulent instead of just flowers and herbs. so I thought I'd ask. I think they MAY be fudging the pics of the blue ones you're showing and calling them turquoise.

So I couldn't grow anything you've shown outside in my zone, right? But I do have a western window with a table right under it that might support an echeveria (didn't he once pitch for the Yanks???) -- I'm going to the nursery tomorrow that has succulents in the greenhouse, I'll see what I can find Thank You!
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Garden10
May 13, 2017 9:00 AM CST
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@joannakat, @Baja_Costero and gang:

Look who came home with me, Echeveria sp. on the left (I think, I pulled the stakes with the names on and then forgot which belonged with which plant) and Echeveria "Orion." They looked more blue/turquoise in the greenhouse, and how they're going to fare the next three days, I don't know, we're not to see the sun until Tuesday. So at least I can pot these indoors today. It's going to be almost 90 on Wednesday, is it OK for me to put them outside during the heat of the day to get the full benefit of the sun?

I asked after Rosary Vine and the woman said, we had two but they're gone, so I said, will you get more, and she said, I don't know, when they have them on the sheet, we order them, but I don't know when that will be. You didn't think it was going to be EASY, now, did you??
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Baja_Costero
May 13, 2017 9:57 AM CST

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Nice plants! Thumbs up Put them in bigger pots when you get a chance, like a little more than the width of the rosette for starters.

Be real careful with the sun this time of year. Assume the plants have not had a chance to adjust to blazing direct sun, and give them a gradual introduction if you want to keep them outside. Maybe start them in bright shade, a little morning sun, filtered light, something like that, and then over the course of weeks gradually move them into a brighter location.
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Garden10
May 13, 2017 10:04 AM CST
Thank You! Baja, did I get the names right??

I don't want to keep them outside, even when it gets hot out, we get those flash-flood thunder storms that can turn them into soup in 20 minutes, I thought when we get nice warm sunny days this week, for starters, I could take them out for some sun and air and then bring them back in the house -- would that help them or stress them?

I am repotting them today, I have that whole bag of cactus soil that Epoma sent me to make up for the half-bag I bought!
"Every now and then I leave the book on the seat and go and have a refreshing potter among my flower beds from which I return greatly benefited, and with a more just conception of what is worth bothering about, and what is not." The Solitary Summer -- Elizabeth von Arnim
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Baja_Costero
May 13, 2017 10:13 AM CST

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I don't know about the names. Let them grow up a little and the ID question will be easier to resolve.

It would be stressful to move them in and out, I think. I always operate on the principle that succulents like this get used to wherever they are used to growing, to the point where they will have a hard time taking a lot more exposure without gradual compensation.

Sun exposure is like lots of things... the result is dependent on time and intensity. A little morning sun is not going to be too harsh, but beware midday sun (now mid-spring going on summer), especially given hours of exposure.
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Baja_Costero
May 13, 2017 10:25 AM CST

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By the way, "Orion" is a hybrid between two of the plants in the patio pictures above.... plant #4 in the first set crossed with #6 in the second set. Little random factoid for you there. Smiling
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Garden10
May 13, 2017 10:55 AM CST
So I got a mutt?? Good, fits right in! Smiling Thank You!
"Every now and then I leave the book on the seat and go and have a refreshing potter among my flower beds from which I return greatly benefited, and with a more just conception of what is worth bothering about, and what is not." The Solitary Summer -- Elizabeth von Arnim
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Baja_Costero
May 13, 2017 2:33 PM CST

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Actually kind of a special thing, more like a liger -- or a coywolf, maybe, if you want to stay within the dog family.

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That particular Echeveria hybrid "Orion" (Dutch origin I believe) is very pretty, seems to have the best features of both parents.

Keep us posted as your plants grow up. Smiling
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