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SierraMom
May 13, 2017 9:25 AM CST
I found a little clematis at Walmart about 4 years ago. It has grown into a beautiful vine! It was tagged as "Sieboldii". It is definitely not a Florida Sieboldii, which is all I can find online. What could it be? thanks! I'm so happy I found this forum!
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Altheabyanothername
May 14, 2017 4:29 PM CST
Hi Sierra mom!
Welcome! I am not a clematis expert especially living in the South. But I am game to take a guess for now " Rosemoor." Maybe some one else will have a better idea. It is a beautiful clematis that you have. I understand why you would like to know its name.
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SierraMom
May 16, 2017 9:44 PM CST
Thanks so much for your reply! I looked up Rosemoor and it very beautiful! It is very similar in size and form but my mystery clematis is more purple. My though was just Jackmanii. I will enjoy it! Happy Spring! Hurray!
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Tisha
May 18, 2017 8:21 AM CST
How beautiful! Could it be Mid-Season Large Flowered cultivar `General Sikorski`? Lovey dubby
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Tisha
May 18, 2017 8:42 AM CST
My two reference books picture a large rich purple flower. Nothing like the picture in the data base here or in other internet site . Sorry, still it`s really pretty. Drooling
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Calif_Sue
May 18, 2017 11:48 PM CST

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It could be the popular Clematis 'Niobe'
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Tisha
May 20, 2017 10:59 AM CST
How close to the actual color is the picture? I had Royal Velvet and lost it ( moles ). A deep rich purple grown mostly in the shade and `bout 8` tall. A favorite so of course.......
The data base has three pic`s only the middle plt pic looks dark enough to be the one I had. I have a plt now that is getting ready to bloom that also looks similar to yours, maybe Crossing Fingers! Just can't think of the name right now,
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Calif_Sue
May 20, 2017 11:12 AM CST

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@Tisha, Royal Velvet has reddish purple anthers, the image above does not.
Additional Royal Velvet photos:
http://www.clematis.hull.ac.uk...

I removed that darker Royal Velvet image that came from Joy Creek nursery as it was an inaccurate color example and is no longer listed on their site.
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Tisha
May 20, 2017 12:42 PM CST
@Calif_Sue Thank-you for the info. Glad that we all help each other. So many plts. it`s confusing sometimes. The color of my Rosemore and Niobe are more shades of red than blue or purple. I must have a lot of mis-labeled plants. I received three roses that are not what they are labeled. This is the most disappointing part of gardening for me.
Have no idea what to do with the roses I know someone else would love to have.
Sorry.
@SierraMom you have a beautiful clematis. Lovey dubby
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Calif_Sue
May 20, 2017 1:58 PM CST

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I'm fortunate to have lots of nurseries around me so I try to purchase most of my plants in bloom. It can be a problem with mail order and then you have to often wait a while before you even see a bloom.
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SierraMom
May 20, 2017 9:40 PM CST
Thanks everyone for all the responses! It's like a port wine purple and exploding with blooms! It could be Niobe, the photo is very true to color. It's like a port wine purplish color! Smiling
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Amazindirt
May 22, 2017 10:21 AM CST
Tisha said:@Calif_Sue Thank-you for the info. Glad that we all help each other. So many plts. it`s confusing sometimes. The color of my Rosemore and Niobe are more shades of red than blue or purple. I must have a lot of mis-labeled plants.


Remember that it is very, VERY hard to accurately capture the true colors of clematis in photos. Don't believe most of the photos you see so far as the coloration goes.



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Amazindirt
May 22, 2017 10:21 AM CST
SierraMom said:Thanks everyone for all the responses! It's like a port wine purple and exploding with blooms! It could be Niobe, the photo is very true to color. It's like a port wine purplish color! Smiling


I also think Niobe is a possibility. But what size are the blooms? Can you measure them?


SierraMom
May 23, 2017 8:07 AM CST
Hi Amazindirt!
They are about 5 inches across.
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May 23, 2017 8:33 AM CST
Absolutely gorgeous!
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Calif_Sue
May 23, 2017 8:42 AM CST

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Could be Niobe but one thing I detected with the other images, the anthers are described as yellow but you can see a bit of lavender at the base. I can't tell from your photos if yours has the same.
Some show it deeper coloring than others, probably due to weather or culture onditions.

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SierraMom
May 25, 2017 8:52 PM CST
It might be lavender..
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Calif_Sue
May 25, 2017 10:04 PM CST

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I think that's a pretty good match! Thumbs up
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fwmosher
Jan 26, 2018 11:09 AM CST
My guess has already been mentioned by SierraMom. I would "bet the farm" on it being "Jackmanii or Jackmanii Supbra". It definitely is not the polish suggestion, "General Sikorski", two many petals, as for one of Sue's suggestion, respectfully, not "red enough" to be "Niobe". I have three, and I don't think I will live long enough to see same ever grow that big. LOL. I must have over forty Jackmanii, climbing through my roses, climbing up live and dead trees and fences, etc. Will post some pictures in near future.
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PS. A picture of "Mrs. N. Thompson" clematis. Really quite stunning! Who ever thought that red an blue on the same plant could be pretty? Cheers!


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mishkab
Feb 21, 2018 8:08 PM CST
I think the name of your clematis is Warsaw Nike. It is quite popular. Loads of blooms, close to Niobe but more plum/ purple in color. And I saw it bare root at local Lowes ( that means they can be sold at Walmart). I never saw any Evison's clematises at Walmart , so Rosemoor is very unlikly.

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