Sempervivum and Jovibarba forum: Novice NOID-mergency!

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Name: Tiffany Wreathfresh™
Puget Sound, WA (Zone 8b)
Sempervivums
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LivingWreaths
May 17, 2017 1:44 PM CST
Hello to you all!
And a "thank you" for sharing all of your precious knowledge!! I have been reading and learning over the past few months, and I'm impressed with members' forethought and depth of knowledge, especially their willingness to share it!
I've stumbled on my own, grumbled to myself, and fumbled for Sempervivum information for years. Then I landed here!
Reading your posts; then finding your photos; learning your personalities, strengths, and interests; I've been the 'little kid' listening in on the "big kids' club" meetings.
[SIDEBAR: ValleyLynn, from the 1st time I saw that adorable Grade School pic of you, I've been wondering, "who is this lady?" Then u reluctantly posted a recent pic of yourself in PNW forum, and you were exactly what I had envisioned--a warm, inviting Grandmother with a big, beautiful smile!!Truly!]
And now I'm joining in the fun.

Could you help me get my Semps straight again?
(OK, I'll downgrade a DefCon from "NOID-mergency" to "NOID-noyance.")
After cuttings from friends n neighbors who don't label; boxstore misfits; and overgrown planter-babies thrown into community playpens (semp babies overflowing and thrown into one big pot, "I'll remember whom their mommies are!" yeah, sure you will..), I need help Identifying the Semps in the 'Land of the Misfit Semps.'



Upper left 1)
Upper Right 2)
Lower Right 3)
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Upper 4)
Lower 5)
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Who is this little cutie? Look at you! 6)
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7)
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8)
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10)
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This one looks as fuzzy-soft as a kitten! 11)
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Theses were all in the same pot labeled, "CAVO DORO." The Bottom 3 are Cavo Doro, but the 2 in top row look very different.
Upper two 12)
Lower three 13) Cavo Doro
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14)
This one had green centers until a few days ago...
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Thank you!!! Thank You!

Tiffany
Name: Ed
Central ,NJ (Zone 6b)
Cactus and Succulents Container Gardener Sempervivums Houseplants Garden Ideas: Level 1
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herrwood
May 17, 2017 1:52 PM CST
I cannot ID ,like you I come here to learn and enjoy the photos. You do have some nice looking semps
Plants are like that little ray of sunshine on a rainy day.
Name: Tiffany Wreathfresh™
Puget Sound, WA (Zone 8b)
Sempervivums
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LivingWreaths
May 17, 2017 1:58 PM CST
Thank you, Ed! Nice to meet you!
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
Sempervivums Sedums Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Cactus and Succulents Container Gardener Garden Ideas: Level 1
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gg5
May 17, 2017 5:55 PM CST
Hi Tiffany thanks for introducing yourself!!! Agree with Ed nice semps!
My approach to your situation is to label the semps you think are Cavo Doro, with the name then a question mark then see if they match up to what else you have that is Cavo Doro and wait and see... It isn't a semp I own so don't know what it looks like and if giving or selling I'd keep it labeled as a NOID, this stops any mis identified semps being out there...i have lots of NOIDs!
Whistling

Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
May 17, 2017 7:11 PM CST

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Hi there Tiffany. And welcome to the semp group, we are so happy you joined us.
Unfortunately once they lose their tags/names They most likely will forever be known as NOIDs. Nothing wrong with that, we love our NOIDs. Hurray!
You can keep a photo diary of your 'Cavo Doro' and see if it will match up with seasonal photos from the database here.
They all look happy and healthy. Hurray!
Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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tcstoehr
May 17, 2017 8:07 PM CST
I'm sorry, but semps cannot be identified by visual inspection. Even by experts. You can only go by your source's identification, and even that is occasionally faulty.
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Sempervivums Container Gardener Foliage Fan Garden Ideas: Master Level Photo Contest Winner: 2014
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webesemps
May 17, 2017 8:19 PM CST
LivingWreaths said:...After cuttings from friends n neighbors who don't label; boxstore misfits; and overgrown planter-babies thrown into community playpens (semp babies overflowing and thrown into one big pot, "I'll remember whom their mommies are!" yeah, sure you will..)...


Welcome! Tiffany!

In your first post to us, you basically gave some very good examples of how identified semps can become Noids and how semps that started off as Noids should remain Noids.

Name: Patty
Washington State (Zone 8b)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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Patty
May 21, 2017 8:14 AM CST
Welcome! Tiffany and Hi from the Eastside! Thumbs up

A friend started me with a ton of named semps and I eventually pulled the tags thinking "who cares?"

When I joined this group I got Named Semp Envy and had to start my collection from scratch. Sighing!
Patty 🌺
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Sempervivums Container Gardener Foliage Fan Garden Ideas: Master Level Photo Contest Winner: 2014
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webesemps
May 21, 2017 8:43 AM CST
And what a collection it is, Patty! Smiling
Name: Tiffany Wreathfresh™
Puget Sound, WA (Zone 8b)
Sempervivums
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LivingWreaths
May 22, 2017 10:29 AM CST
Thank You!
Hi Patty! We love our E. WA friends. Glad to make another! "Named Semp Envy," that's hilarious!!
Hi Lynn, Greg (fellow-westsider), Bev, Tim,
Yes. Most of mine are labeled, and I'll be keeping good track of their babies from now on. The others, I'm labeling "NOID" until I come up with a new catch-all name that doesn't remind me of the former Domino's Pizza mascot( "the Noid"). DSH (Domestic Semp Hobo's ... 🐈...DSH already taken by kittens)? Mutt (🐕 ditto)? Blended Family members? ....What about "Free Range Semps??" I like that!
[SIDEBAR: please, no one inform me of a named cultivar, " Free Range Semp."
D'Oh! ]
Looking forward to participating in the forum, and sharing knowledge.

Tiffany

The cat discussing what she thinks of disseminating mis-labeled Semps...Well said, kitten....well said.


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Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
Sempervivums Sedums Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Cactus and Succulents Container Gardener Garden Ideas: Level 1
Garden Art Birds Dog Lover Cat Lover Region: Pacific Northwest Hummingbirder
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gg5
May 22, 2017 11:16 AM CST
Funny photo Tiffany! Patty is on the west side she's in the foothills though so a bit colder than us. Nice to meet another look!!
Cheers
I tip my hat to you.

Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
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valleylynn
May 22, 2017 11:25 AM CST

Moderator

Love the kitty photo. My first chuckle for the day. Hilarious!
Name: Patty
Washington State (Zone 8b)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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Patty
May 23, 2017 9:39 AM CST
Hi Tiffany! I'm in Carnation - the Eastside of the Westside Thumbs up

FRS - pronounced Firs? to replace noids? Shrug!
Patty 🌺
Name: Tiffany Wreathfresh™
Puget Sound, WA (Zone 8b)
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LivingWreaths
May 23, 2017 11:15 AM CST
Yes, Patty! FRS pronounced 'Firs.' Love it! OK, so a few in WestWA. Good to know there are peeps close by..
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
Garden Photography Region: Pacific Northwest Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Forum moderator Plant Database Moderator I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Dog Lover Foliage Fan Greenhouse Container Gardener Heucheras Sedums
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springcolor
May 24, 2017 12:07 AM CST
Hi Welcome! Another western side person.
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Name: Tiffany Wreathfresh™
Puget Sound, WA (Zone 8b)
Sempervivums
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LivingWreaths
May 24, 2017 10:37 AM CST
Thank you, Julia!

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