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Tisha
May 27, 2017 9:37 AM CST
Is it ok to put a rose into the hole I just removed a different rose from?
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May 27, 2017 9:54 AM CST

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RpR
May 27, 2017 9:58 AM CST
Tisha said:Is it ok to put a rose into the hole I just removed a different rose from?

Best to change to new soil in that hole.

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Tisha
May 27, 2017 10:35 AM CST
@RpR thank-you.
For some reason I thought it was more complicated than that.
Some old wives tale about replanting a rose in the same place as where one had just been removed.
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IrisLilli
May 28, 2017 9:52 AM CST
A little more info on one of the reasons you should not replace one rose with another without at least changing the soil:
http://www.gardenguides.com/86...

PS.: I do not suggest you do all the things listed in this link - just some extra info in case you or others were curious.
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May 28, 2017 10:16 AM CST
I seem to remember a discussion of this topic in the past during which someone said that "rose replacement syndrome" (?) was more of an issue in Europe. Does anyone else recall that thread?
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Steve812
Jun 4, 2017 10:43 AM CST
My own speculation, FWIW...

For some time it was suspected that a rose failed where a previous rose had grown because of a disease. As I remember the story, people looked for an infectious agent but did not find one. It is completely possible that it is caused by some signalling chemical emitted by the rose roots that retards growth. It is known, for example, that crowding too many carp into a pool will retard their growth because a signalling chemical builds up in the water.

My guess is that in Europe there are spots where a given rose has been growing for eighty or a hundred years. If there were a signalling chemical that built up in the soil it would exist in such a spot. Fresh soil would be free from this. I think there are not many places in the US where one could find a rose growing in one spot for many decades, so I think it would be a rare case where this would be a big concern.

If one is replacing a rose that has lived in a location one or two years one might replace the soil for a completely different reason: maybe the soil played an important role in the failure of that short-lived rose.

When I am sure that the soil played no role in the death of a fairly young rose I may be a little casual about replacing the soil, but I am generally dealing with spots in the garden where a rose died from a combination of late frost and lack of water, and generally a rose not yet three years old.
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