All Things Gardening forum: What type of tree is this and is it doing okay?

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DJRCB
May 29, 2017 1:31 PM CST
Hey guys I have this tree in my garden I not sure if it's doing well it barely looks alive. Any idea? Does it need and special attention?
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Thank you for the help!
Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
May 29, 2017 9:24 PM CST
The only thing I can think of is Horse Chestnut. What do the leaves look like all spread out? The tree looks healthy to me but is a type that has red spring foliage.
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ardesia
May 30, 2017 3:51 AM CST
Good call on the red spring foliage Daisy. I would not know much about Horse Chestnut trees as they do not grow where I live but if you plan to keep it there it looks like it could use a good shaping and by someone who knows what they are doing.
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JuneOntario
May 30, 2017 6:22 AM CST
The prominent veins on the leaves and the bristly fruit capsules remind me of beech. Could this be a copper beech tree? @DJRCB What part of the world do you live in, and are European beech trees hardy in your area?
Name: Gary
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hostasmore
May 30, 2017 6:26 AM CST
It would help to see what came out of or is in those seed pods as far as identifying it goes.
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DJRCB
Jun 4, 2017 11:40 AM CST
JuneOntario said:The prominent veins on the leaves and the bristly fruit capsules remind me of beech. Could this be a copper beech tree? @DJRCB What part of the world do you live in, and are European beech trees hardy in your area?


I'm in south western Ontario.

Also. I think the pods are left over from the previous year. I'm not sure what was in them.
Name: June
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JuneOntario
Jun 4, 2017 2:42 PM CST
@DJRCB , I am 99% certain that it is a European copper beech (Fagus sylvatica 'Cuprea'). I think you are far enough south for it to be hardy. If it is too spindly for your liking, you can cut it back to make it branch more. This tree is sometimes used as a hedge in the UK, because it tends to hang on to its dead leaves over winter. Left to grow naturally as a tree, it will make quite a large specimen (100ft/30m).
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DJRCB
Jun 5, 2017 10:33 AM CST
JuneOntario said:@DJRCB , I am 99% certain that it is a European copper beech (Fagus sylvatica 'Cuprea'). I think you are far enough south for it to be hardy. If it is too spindly for your liking, you can cut it back to make it branch more. This tree is sometimes used as a hedge in the UK, because it tends to hang on to its dead leaves over winter. Left to grow naturally as a tree, it will make quite a large specimen (100ft/30m).


Thank you for the reply. When is the best time to prune it back? I would rather have it smaller and more full than I thin twig like tree.
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JuneOntario
Jun 5, 2017 10:47 AM CST
The best time to prune would be right now, so that it has a full growing season in which to branch out.
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DJRCB
Jun 5, 2017 12:07 PM CST
JuneOntario said:The best time to prune would be right now, so that it has a full growing season in which to branch out.


Okay thank you. Last question how much of the top can I cut off?

Name: June
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JuneOntario
Jun 5, 2017 2:16 PM CST
When you say "the top" I assume you mean the main, vertical shoot, sometimes called the leader, which will develop into the tree's trunk. It looks fairly thick in your first photo. Personally, I would not cut the leader until it had reached the height that I wanted the main trunk of the tree to fork. However, if you envisage growing it as a large bush, not a tall tree, cut lower. I recommend you take a look at some pruning guides - I'm not sure if there is one on this website, but you should be able to find plenty on-line - and get an idea of how to cut to create the shape that you want.

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