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Name: Patty
Sarasota, Florida (Zone 9b)
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SarasotaPatty
May 30, 2017 11:57 AM CST
OK, so I got a psychopsis back in October that had one bloom and one inflo on it:

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Last week...almost 7 months later....the inflo that had the bloom has turned brown and died, and the other inflo- that I've never seen bloom- looks exactly the same:
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Today I went outside for a minute and noticed that the green inflo is snapped in half with he top part just hanging down (squirrel maybe?)! I'm heartbroken! Grumbling

What do I do now? Cut them off and hope for another to grow? Leave the bottom half of the one that got broken?

I had the plant inside the house in a south facing window, until recently (when the sun moved and it no longer gets any direct sun in that window) then moved it to the porch where it gets bright light but only a minimal amount of direct morning sun. There is some new growth at the bottom, but I cant' tell if it's going to be a new pb or a new inflo.

HELP, please!
Name: lindsey
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sugarcane
May 30, 2017 12:11 PM CST
I would leave it alone... mine has 4 spikes and in the 2 years since I've owned it various things have hit the bud area.. killing it or knocking it off.. each has regrown a new flowering spike just below where the damage was.
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Name: Patty
Sarasota, Florida (Zone 9b)
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SarasotaPatty
May 30, 2017 12:25 PM CST
Thanks, Lindsey. What about the one that is all dry and brown? Leave it or cut it off? Should I have this thing inside or out? Sun or no sun? Dry or damp?
If all goes as planned, I'm working on baskets tomorrow! Hurray!
Name: lindsey
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sugarcane
May 30, 2017 1:42 PM CST

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I would leave them both alone...mine grows out with my Cats...but in an area that has a little bit more shade...like Oncidium light. I know mine has been damaged by either wind..wind blown twigs..or flying squirrels. but you can see how they grow after they have been damaged. Hopefully that newest spike has a nub that a new growth can come from..I'm so sorry that this happened to your pretty plant Crying
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Name: Ursula
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Ursula
May 30, 2017 5:49 PM CST

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Good advice from Lindsey!!
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Name: Patty
Sarasota, Florida (Zone 9b)
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SarasotaPatty
May 31, 2017 7:15 AM CST
Thank You! Thank You! OK then, leave the spikes alone it is! THANKS! I just brought it in to give it a good bath and it actually has 2 new growths at the bottom! Since they are at the bottom I'm assuming they will both be new pbs, not inflo's, but I'm still excited about it! Thumbs up
Name: lindsey
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sugarcane
May 31, 2017 3:44 PM CST
That's phenomenal news.. maybe the plant has accepted the fact that the first spike might be a goner and the second spike has had a set back.. fingers crossed it all works out!
lindsey
Name: Patty
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SarasotaPatty
May 31, 2017 9:01 PM CST
Thanks Lindsey! My fingers are crossed as well! I'll take a couple of pics when I'm not messing with beads! Hilarious!
Name: Alice
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ardesia
Jun 1, 2017 7:25 AM CST
Speaking of Patty's beads and baskets. Doesn't this little Ludisia look pretty in Patty's basket. It is hard to see against the tree, I should take a picture against a solid background. In person the colors really complement each other.
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Minds are like parachutes; they work better when they are open.
Name: Patty
Sarasota, Florida (Zone 9b)
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SarasotaPatty
Jun 1, 2017 9:04 AM CST
That IS pretty Alice! @ardesia

Here's the orchid you gave me...I love it in this basket, and since taking the picture have moved the plant to my side garden so that I see it whenever I'm on the computer! I can't wait to see it bloom!

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I wanted to ask you about the tag on it....is one or the other, or both, correct?

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Name: Alice
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ardesia
Jun 1, 2017 10:51 AM CST
It is soooo much happier at your house. Thumbs up The label that came called it Iwan Appleblossom 'Lemon Pie'. There seem to be so many different Appleblossoms and I think they Jackfowlieras now, not Iwan.
Minds are like parachutes; they work better when they are open.
Name: lindsey
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sugarcane
Aug 21, 2017 11:07 AM CST
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I'm assuming that this is black rot on my Cym. Evening Star 'Twilight'?
It's only affecting the new growth , which is growing all around the perimeter
of the pot. New growth is still coming up...should I un pot it and investigate ?...
Dump a mess of cinnamon on top and leave it alone? Move the plant under the
protection of the patio roof?
Thanks for any advice!
lindsey
Name: Jim Hawk
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hawkarica
Aug 21, 2017 4:14 PM CST
I would investigate and remove anything with the black rot on it with a sterile knife. The best place for that black rot is in a black bag out by the curb.

Jim
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Name: lindsey
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sugarcane
Aug 21, 2017 4:45 PM CST
So you are recommending tipping it out of the pot and performing surgery?
lindsey
Name: Jim Hawk
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hawkarica
Aug 21, 2017 5:45 PM CST
Yes, leaving the black rot on the main part of the plant will kill it.

Jim
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Name: Patty
Sarasota, Florida (Zone 9b)
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SarasotaPatty
Aug 21, 2017 5:55 PM CST
Oh NO! Good luck, Lindsey! YIKES!
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Australis
Aug 22, 2017 6:27 AM CST

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I agree with Jim. At this stage it's important to remove the rot. Your Cym. might skip a flowering season, but better to have it alive than not.

I'd also find a good fungicide and spray the whole plant. Make sure there is good ventilation around it and try to keep it from being too hot and humid (ideal conditions for fungal rot).

Edited to add: Sterilising your cutting tool(s) frequently as well. Don't want to transfer the fungus/bacteria to another part of the plant (let alone any others). Isolate the plant (if you can) to minimise the risk of the problem spreading.
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Name: lindsey
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sugarcane
Aug 22, 2017 12:43 PM CST
Thanks Guys...
The plant Is elevated and out in the open, so it gets good ventilation around it..I can't do anything about the heat and humidity...that's what Florida summers are.
I have a few fungicides in the cabinet. Thomyl...Thiophanate-methyl is the active ingredient. Dithane ...Ethylene bisdithiocarbamate, combined with Manganese, & Zinc. And another product called Liquid Ornamental and Vegetable flowable fungicide with Chlorothalonil as it's active ingredient....Do you have a preference ? Since I'll have the plant out of it's pot, should I also soak it in a big tub of the fungicide?

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Name: lindsey
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sugarcane
Nov 5, 2017 9:51 AM CST
Yesterday, I applied Epsom Salts (1 tsp to the gallon) along with my usual fertilizer ...I used a big watering can to get the job done. This was around 10:30am. In the afternoon I saw this on a new leaf...

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This morning I saw this.



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another plant that had been shielded by a neighboring leaf had this marking on it.
I thought Epsom salts was to balance things out so you did not get burgundy leaves...what have I done to create burgundy leaves with unnatural spots and stripes?
lindsey
Name: Ursula
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Ursula
Nov 5, 2017 10:11 AM CST

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My guess is the leaves didn't get hit evenly with the Epsom salt, perhaps some of the Chlorophyll molecules received too much Magnesium or nothing at all. Some Epsom salt preparations also contains other stuff to smell nice, was this one pure Magnesium Sulfate?

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