Sempervivum and Jovibarba forum: Sempervivum 'Michael's Golden' / 'Mitchell's Gold'

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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
May 31, 2017 9:27 AM CST

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I just came across a post on Facebook by Marco show 'Mitchell's Gold'. Dead ringer for 'Michael's Golden'.
https://www.facebook.com/profi...
http://sempervivum-liste.de/Se...
http://www.semperhorst.de/dieh...

And I forgot about this thread from 2011. I think Gramps has passed away.
The thread "Looking for Sempervivum "Michell's Gold"" in Sempervivum and Jovibarba forum

And here is 'Michael's Golden' Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum 'Mitchell's Gold')

Could this be why we could never find information on 'Michael's Golden'? It some how had a name change?
Name: Julia
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springcolor
May 31, 2017 10:50 AM CST
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Name: Bev
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webesemps
May 31, 2017 12:28 PM CST
Kind of wonder why it got changed to "Michael's" when the person who introduced it isn't even named Michael but is named Mitchell. Make me think the correct name should be Mitchell... but who knows?
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Name: Chris
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goldfinch4
May 31, 2017 2:00 PM CST

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It is interesting..... Makes me think the name got mixed up somewhere along the line too.
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Name: Greg Colucci
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gg5
May 31, 2017 3:29 PM CST
I agree with Bev if it is the same semp we should give it its proper name Mitchell's Golden... I tip my hat to you.
Thanks Lynn for finding this, I wasn't aware there was a problem Whistling

Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
May 31, 2017 4:26 PM CST

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I think I need to try and get one of them from Europe and grow it along side the one I have.
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dirtdorphins
May 31, 2017 7:11 PM CST
oh wow, I'm sorry I missed Gramps!

Good idea Lynn, it would be worthwhile to see if they are the same or not Thumbs up

Meanwhile, where did you all get your Michael's?
Name: Patty
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Patty
May 31, 2017 7:17 PM CST
I didn't know there was an issue with it either Confused Horsts site shows Mitchell's Gold but no pics. Shrug!
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
May 31, 2017 9:51 PM CST

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Dirt, I got it from North Hills Nursery years ago.
Name: Chris
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goldfinch4
Jun 23, 2017 1:47 PM CST

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Did we ever come to any conclusion on this name? Do you think we all really have 'Mitchell's Gold'?
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jun 23, 2017 2:36 PM CST

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After going over all the site references for cultivars, and sites with photos, I believe 'Michael's Golden' is the same semp as 'Mitchell's Gold'.

@JungleShadows what are your thoughts on this? The seasonal coloring matches from one site to our database photos. Type/form and size also match.
I am thinking we should change the database name to 'Mitchell's Gold' and add 'Also sold as'.
Every ones thought on this would be helpful.

Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum 'Mitchell's Gold')
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Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Jun 24, 2017 9:33 AM CST

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I agree with you Lynn, and also think we should change the name in the database and add "also sold as".
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 24, 2017 4:18 PM CST

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It is done. Thank you Chris. Makes even more sense when you see who one of the parents are.
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Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum 'Mitchell's Gold')
Name: Greg Colucci
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gg5
Jun 25, 2017 1:00 AM CST
Good idea! Thanks both of you! I tip my hat to you.

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