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Name: Jared Nicholes
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jnicholes
Jun 1, 2017 3:38 PM CST
Hi everyone.

So I have a very interesting question. I have been doing an experiment with Nettle water as a fertilizer, according to an article my great great grandpa posted in 1899. I was just seeing if it still works.

Here is my question, before I used the nettle water, my veggies, which consist of Pumpkin, Blue Hubbard Squash, Tomatoes, Peppers, Watermelon, Acorn Squash, Butternut Squash, Cucumbers, Cabbage, Cauliflower, Broccoli, and Zucchini, they were growing pretty slow. When I looked at them, I only had one tiny Acorn Squash growing so far.

Four days after I used the nettle water, I noticed something, the veggies were growing RAPIDLY. I now have three acorn squash growing, one pumpkin, five cucumbers, four cauliflower, four MASSIVE cabbage and peppers growing, (all of them were quite small, but they were veggies all right.) The Pumpkin plant doubled in size as did the Zucchini and the Blue Hubbard Squash. Its like they had a sudden spike in growth. I actually see them get bigger every day.

Here is the question, is this a result of the nettle water or do they normally grow this fast?

I honestly do not know. If you want pictures, I will post them.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Jared
Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Jun 1, 2017 3:43 PM CST
Hi Jared,

There are too many variables to know for sure. When you decide to repeat this experiment, have a control group. The control group would be made up of the same plants, treated exactly the same way but would not get Nettle water. If that is the only variable, you will know for sure if the Nettle water worked.
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Name: Jared Nicholes
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jnicholes
Jun 1, 2017 3:53 PM CST
Hi.

I do have a control group. It consists of some other veggies that are actually growing slower, now that you mention it. I looked at them today and the controlled group is growing pretty slow, to be honest.

Thanks for getting back so fast, @Daisyl

Jared.
Name: greene
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greene
Jun 1, 2017 4:37 PM CST
When you say 'nettle' can you please give us the botanic name; there are several plants that have a common name of nettle. I'd like to try the experiment in my garden. Thank You! Hurray!
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Name: Jared Nicholes
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jnicholes
Jun 1, 2017 4:53 PM CST
Hello there.

@Greene, here is the full article. It was done in 1899 in Austria. I followed it 100 Percent. The plant is Urtica Dioica, or Stinging Nettle.

"We always had heaps and heaps and heaps of vegetables. Nobody could understand why people with nearby gardens only had scrawny little plants, but the Pfeiffers had huge plants with cucumbers 40 cm. long. "Mr. Pfeiffer," they asked, "how do you do it? What do you do? Are you getting manure from the farmers?" At this time, of course, there was no artificial fertilizer. But I'll tell you what my clever father did. He kept lots of shabby old barrels in the garden. Near the garden was a little stream. Wherever Father saw nettles he picked them: in the woods, by the river, in the garden or the fields, everywhere. You know what nettles are? Wild plants that sting and burn your skin if you brush against them. Father pushed basketfuls of nettles into these old barrels, and brought 30 or 40 liters of water from the river to fill them up. He put on a lid and let the nettles ferment. We had to have the lid because the fermenting nettles smelled like an outhouse. He let it sit. When the fermenting was done, and the water was dark and dirty, but didn't smell so bad anymore, he took off the lid and dipped about 2 1/2 pints of it into a big watering can. This he diluted with pure stream water, and carefully poured on the ground around the stem. He was careful not to get any on the leaves because it would burn them. He never used it on his grafted roses, and he never used it undiluted. It would have been too strong. He used ten parts of water to one part nettle water.
His cauliflowers were so big you couldn't find a bag big enough to go around them. These he took to the Kaiser's rose garden to trade for rose cuttings. He grew all sorts of big vegetables this way. We had too much; so many we couldn't eat them all, even though we eventually fed 12 at our family table every day. So we gave a lot of our excess to friends. We had everything to cook: potatoes, tomatoes, and so many apples! We had so much fruit that we never bothered to pick up what fell on the ground. We had such strawberries!"

I ordered one pound of Stinging nettle leaves off Amazon and I let them ferment in a five gallon bucket with a lid on it, it DID smell awful.

I guess we could work together on this experiment now!

Jared
Name: greene
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greene
Jun 1, 2017 5:08 PM CST
Hurray!
Okay, count me in!!!

Edited to add:
I remember that I had written an article (back when we were ATP) about making a fertilizer from weeds. Most of the article talks about using EM-1 but near the end of the article I mention how to make the mix without the EM-a and yes, it's stinky enough to annoy the neighbors, their dogs and the vultures flying overhead.
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Name: greene
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greene
Jun 1, 2017 5:24 PM CST
It appears that you are posting about this experiment in two different places here on NGA. Better to group it all together in one thread so we don't have to bounce back and forth and risk missing some important detail.

Don't know how to merge the posts into one thread?? Shrug!

Can you tell me the source you used on Amazon to purchase the nettles?? Thank You! My plan is to use nettles in one batch and various other weeds in a second batch.
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Name: Jared Nicholes
Nampa, Idaho
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jnicholes
Jun 1, 2017 5:27 PM CST
Hi everyone.

Here is what I mean by growing fast. This is one of my Zucchini plants. pictures were taken one a day for three days.

I am aware of the weeds, I will take care of it.


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Jared

Name: Jared Nicholes
Nampa, Idaho
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jnicholes
Jun 1, 2017 5:29 PM CST
Hello,

@Greene, here is the nettle I bought.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00016XK2S/

I do not know how to merge.

Jared
Name: greene
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greene
Jun 1, 2017 5:38 PM CST
jnicholes said:
...here is the nettle I bought.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00016XK2S/

Jared
Frontier is a company I recognize. We have a natural food market here in Savannah and many of their bulk dried herbs come from Frontier.

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Name: Jared Nicholes
Nampa, Idaho
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jnicholes
Jun 1, 2017 6:06 PM CST
Hi.

Thats great that you have easy access to it and are familiar with the seller. It should be easy for you to get.

Anyway, I will keep you up to date on my plants.

I just realized that the pictures of my Zucchinis growth were placed in the wrong order. The second should be first, the first one should be second, the third is good where its at. THAT is how fast it grew in three days.

Jared
Name: Jared Nicholes
Nampa, Idaho
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jnicholes
Jun 3, 2017 9:03 AM CST
Hi everyone.

Update. Now I got three Zucchinis growing I didnt notice before. My cabbage also showed surprising results with this experiment. I also got a Broccoli growing now. The plants are growing faster ever since I added the Nettle Water.

I will post a video sometime.

Jared

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