Site Talk forum: Should landscape photos be of the member's own garden only?

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Name: Anita
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Lioba
Jun 2, 2017 9:03 AM CST
Obviously there are great photographers here on NGA. I love looking at flower/landscape compositions. Are we receiving acorns for photography? Landscaping? Plantings and identifications? I would like to know the perimeters.

Are folks receiving acorns for non member property photos? How can we tell? We can't but I hope there is honesty and disclosure.

I know this can go too far. Did one do that landscape yourself or did the landscaper do it? I also hope we are DIYers or at least great planners assisting the landscapers with your dreams. Well members have to maintain their gardens at some point. Make changes at some point.

I guess my issue lies with keeping photos to member's own property by honesty system.

If folks take photos not of their own landscape, they should be posted on another site.

Thats my thoughts on this topic.



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plantladylin
Jun 2, 2017 9:12 AM CST
Anita, I don't believe there are restrictions as to where the photo is taken. Many people take landscape photos when visiting botanical gardens. Smiling
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lauribob
Jun 2, 2017 9:23 AM CST
I think we have a great diversity of gardeners and interests on this site and would hate to see limitations put on the users to show their interests in gardens other than their own back yard. Many people love to garden, but for whatever reason, are not able to have the garden of their dreams. Does that diminish their joy in a beautiful landscape in any way?

As far as the acorns go, it's not like it's a contest or something - just a fun thing. You have posted some lovely pictures of your garden and I enjoyed looking at them. I have also enjoyed looking at some of the photos taken at botanical gardens that I may never get a chance to visit. I don't think there are a lot of rules about what photos are appropriate as long as they pertain to gardening. Enjoy!
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Calif_Sue
Jun 2, 2017 9:23 AM CST

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Landscape photos don't get acorns. Please review how to receive acorns, found at the bottom of every page.

We all enjoy landscape photos added to the site to enhance the beauty of the Home page, even more so if the plants can be tagged. If someone tours a wonderful public garden or a friends garden, we all love to see those too! These are photos to be shared, there are no rules to imply they have to be just of your own garden. Anyone, including the original poster, can start a conversation stating or asking where they photo was taken too.
They can also be shared in the Garden Photos Forum.
(FYI, landscape here does not mean vacation scenery type shots)
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jmorth
Jun 2, 2017 12:40 PM CST
Actually I think landscape pics do get an acorn (but without the formal message).
Nothing that's been done can ever be changed.
Name: Anita
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Lioba
Jun 2, 2017 2:04 PM CST
I should have indicated that one I'm a troublemaker and two, I will be happy to enjoy what the members accept.

Thank you for sharing what you value about the landscape photos. It made me really think the photography is work too. I can't go to those places anymore.
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Name: Anita
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Lioba
Jun 2, 2017 3:19 PM CST
After reading carefully and looking at my landscape postings, no acorns are given except by generous members.

Thanks folks for challenging me. Love you all!
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jmorth
Jun 2, 2017 5:24 PM CST
I loaded a landscape and got an acorn when I posted above. System doesn't notify you but number of acorns increases by one on your profile page.
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Bonehead
Jun 2, 2017 10:10 PM CST
I really don't give much thought, if any, to the nuts. A thumbs up is just as nice. I have all the badges that will fit on my screen and don't have much interest in mail order plants so the raffles are of secondary interest to me. I'm sure they are good publicity for the companies, and I do appreciate their generosity.

Edited to answer the specific question of this thread: no, for reasons posted by others. A pretty picture is a pretty picture. I would just continue to encourage folks to label landscape photos so they are incorporated into the database rather than just lost in space.
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Name: Anita
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Lioba
Jun 3, 2017 10:59 AM CST
Is that what happens when we label them in a landscape photo, the plant goes into the database?
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Calif_Sue
Jun 3, 2017 11:03 AM CST

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The photo is 'connected' to the entry, yes, you can see the clickable links for each individual plant tagged.
See this example, click on any of the tagged links, scroll down past the database images to see the landscape photos associated with it.
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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Jun 3, 2017 11:08 AM CST
When one takes the additional time and effort to properly LABEL a landscape photo, the photo is added to each plant identified below the photos of the specific plant. Here's an example:



If you will open each of the labeled plant's database entries, you will find this photo below the portrait photos. Here's an example from the above landscape photo:

Masterwort (Astrantia major 'Sunningdale Variegated')

I find this VERY HELPFUL when researching plants I may introduce into my gardens. After looking at all the various photos of the plant itself, it is wonderful to see photos in situ with other plants to get ideas of where to site a particular plant, what it might be a good companion to, and how it might look in relationship to other plants (height, width, etc.). I love when landscape photos are labeled, so so helpful.
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Paul2032
Jun 3, 2017 11:19 AM CST
I enjoy looking at pretty pictures. You can keep them coming for me. I label mine when I am certain of the cultivars. I take pictures of private gardens but do not give addresses or names as I think most people wouldn't appreciate that. I like closer shots of 2 or more plants to see how they compliment each other. An example is............Thumb of 2017-06-03/Paul2032/324e71
If the pictures are taken at a public place or a nursery I SOMETIMES mention it. Nurseries probably like the free advertising. A single blossom is not a landscape photo to me but a well staged individual plant fills the bill as a landscape photo to me. An example is.....
Thumb of 2017-06-03/Paul2032/f9f23dRose is Day Breaker.....

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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Jun 4, 2017 10:23 AM CST
I guess I disagree, Paul. If the photo is of a single plant, I think it should be entered as that. Your 'landscape' or 'multi-plant' photo above is lovely, but why not just submit it as a 'whole plant' photo? No big deal - if you have labeled it, it will show up if anyone is researching that particular rose. To me, multi means more than one. The change to landscape kind of blurred that notion.
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fwmosher
Jan 25, 2018 4:15 PM CST
Take whatever pics you can, but please be courteous enough to give credit to the grower/site, and do not claim as your own. Cheers!
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greene
Jan 25, 2018 5:27 PM CST
I had 'met' a gardener online and he graciously gave me permission to upload his landscape images to this site. There is currently no place to add information about where the photo was taken and no place provided to give credit to the original photographer.
The only place for me to add that type of information is in the comment section.

As much as I enjoy received thumbs up for these images, I do wish there was a better way as not all landscape images are of the person's home garden so knowing the location would be very helpful, and currently no place to give proper credit to the photographer who was generous enough to give permission to post their image.

There is a place to add this type of information when we upload to the database. I wonder if it would be very difficult to add the two items?
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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Jan 28, 2018 6:42 PM CST
I rather like the comment section, it opens up a discussion of the photo. Unless and until things change, please use that to give credit to both the photographer and his garden. Never know where that might lead...
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purpleinopp
Feb 6, 2018 11:26 AM CST
Lioba, I sent some acorns to you.

The way I see it, if I've made the effort to drive somewhere where there are plants pretty or interesting enough to take a pic, and I've made the effort to take the pic, crop it, it's my pic to do whatever I want. I try to remember to change the label on database entry pics not taken in my yard to the location where taken but I'm sure I've forgotten occasionally. I do not take &/or upload pics to get acorns, although they are fun to re-gift back to other members who seem to also enjoy them, and I did win a HEFT tool entering a raffle on here. Very cool & I was very grateful for that.

Unfortunately, there is no facility for attaching comments or dates to multi/landscape pics. It has been requested before this discussion & again in this one, and I think everyone agrees it would be super-helpful to see the date.

If there was a spot for a comment on multi/landscape pics, I would also use that to indicate where I took the pic whenever not taken @ my own garden.
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Name: Frank Mosher
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fwmosher
Feb 19, 2018 6:21 PM CST
I'm a new member to this NGA site, and I am upset about the rules with regard to Photos. There are no rules! One can submit whatever photo they want, from wherever, and state on the pic, photo by soandso and for all intents and purposes, take full credit for same replete with thumbs up, acorns, etc. Some members have posted 30,000 plus photos??? When I post a photo, my name is not embossed on same as: Photo by Frank Mosher. How come so many members have their name embossed on their pictures? And yes it does make a difference to me! If I am wondering around with my camera taking landscape pictures of some garden, I would always credit the area in which the picture was taken, doff my hat to the garden owner/designer, (even if unknown) and certainly not infer in the slightest way, that it was my garden/design. Very simple: "A photo I took of a Garden in Georgia last week, I think the design is beautiful." It is so bad right now, that I sent a tree-mail to a member the other day, stating how beautiful their landscaping pictures were, only to receive a reply that they were of another members garden/design. Wow! Has it come to the point that "anything" is fair game?? Plagerize away! Wow, I am very concerned about the next Photo Contest? If you take a picture of a garden, you have diddly squat rights to that picture-none. Anyone can take a picture of that garden. Just saying!
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Australis
Feb 19, 2018 6:40 PM CST

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Hi Frank,

There are most definitely rules about photos. I'll try to address some of your comments.

With regards to names/copyright statements on photos, there are several options:
- You can apply your own watermark before uploading
- You can have no watermark (some members prefer this)
- You can change your site preferences to apply a watermark for you (go to https://garden.org/users/prefs..., scroll down to the option labelled "Add a watermark to uploaded photos?" and select what you would prefer). The large graphical watermark is a semi-transparent NGA logo.

Regarding taking photos of other members' gardens - this is not something that can be policed in any practical way. In many countries, the photographer owns the copyright to the image they take. Whether or not it is legal to take a photo of that scene or object is context-dependent (i.e. in Australia, generally if it's in public view and not violating somebody's reasonable expectation of privacy, it's legal). If somebody has invited you into their garden and allowed you to take photos, then the photographer is allowed to upload those. Whilst it is polite to add a caption stating that it's not their own garden, it's not a legal requirement and certainly not enforceable.

Plagiarism is not allowed on this site and if the admins find photos taken from other sites without the permission of the copyright holder, we remove them. You will find quite a few hybridisers or vendors have given us permission to add their photos to the database (especially for Irises). Also, if you do not want anyone to propose the addition of your photos to the database, you can change your site preferences as well to prevent this (so that only you can upload them to the database when you want to).

I hope that helps address some of your concerns.

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