Peonies forum: An option to order tree peonies from China

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chicago, illinois (Zone 6a)
peonyplan
Jun 8, 2017 9:40 AM CST
There is this website china-plants.com from Gansu, China. It sells peonies and has many varieties. The tree peonies they offer are around $18 retail price per plant, and they have better bulk prices. It is certainly less expensive than buy one in the States. However, the minimum amount they accept for retail orders is 20 plants and at least 2 plants per variety. Other fees include shipping and document, perhaps also custom fees?

I have not ordered any plants from overseas and I don't if it is a good idea to do so. I think it is an option for those who have a yard. For me, I cannot take 20 because I rent an apartment and do not have any outdoor space and I plant my peonies in pots.

littlebin
Jun 8, 2017 9:48 AM CST
It is not a good idea, I heard they often mis-labeled and have bad customer service.

Here is an discussion about this company:
http://forums.gardenweb.com/di...
chicago, illinois (Zone 6a)
peonyplan
Jun 8, 2017 10:37 AM CST
That was not a pleasant experience with so much hassle and mislabeled plants. Some online dealers are importing the plants and making a huge profit. 4poenies told me they import their plants from China and resell them.
Name: Mary Stella
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Oberon46
Jun 14, 2017 8:55 AM CST
Well that is understandable. With all the fees connected with importing plus the freight, they should get some sort of profit. Not as much as you might think. I ordered from Holland, and by the time the fees were calculated, it was about even with US prices. It was extremely generous of the Peony Shop to pay the fees and such, then out and out donate the plants to our botanical garden. Pretty nice guys.
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Oldgardenrose
Jun 14, 2017 1:40 PM CST
I remember a website from China where they specialized in selling tree peonies, 25,000 to 100,000 per order at dirt cheap prices. They shipped by container at a reasonable price. They were geared to selling to re-sellers like Walmart, Lowe's, etc.
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Oldgardenrose
Jun 14, 2017 2:07 PM CST
This is not the older site since they priced their tree peonies at about 3 euros and had dozens of different color groups. Good for reference though.
http://www.china-plants.com/ch...
chicago, illinois (Zone 6a)
peonyplan
Jun 15, 2017 9:26 AM CST
@Oldgardenrose Hello Jerry, are potted tree peonies available at some lowe's and walmart?
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Oldgardenrose
Jun 15, 2017 4:14 PM CST
I have not seen any locally. Lactiflora peonies in Spring pots but they are seldom true to name.
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LizinElizabeth
Jun 15, 2017 10:08 PM CST
I've seen them at Lowe's some years but they're not potted, sold like the clematis and berries in the plastic sleeve like thing....they were near the seeds and bulbs when I found them rather than with the potted plants.
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Oberon46
Jun 22, 2017 10:51 AM CST
I bought some from Lowe's for my peony workshop. Planted around the first of April, they grew a inch or so then stopped. When I could put them in my raised beds I saw they had grown no feeder roots. Then I got a shipment ordered online around the end of April and they looked a bit healthier. But same thing. They started to grow then stopped. Again no feeder roots developing. Very embarrassing when class time came but everyone was really nice and I truly feel if they plant them now they will by next spring develop the feeder roots and grow.

I don't feel they are worth the money; I got what I paid for. Not much. It was a good experience for the people in the class to see the difference in roots and results. I spoke about what I received from six online reputable sellers and even showed a sample order of very modestly priced plants ($18-25) with postage from Adelman's. They agreed that they were really reasonable. I emphasized the variety to choose from. Costco sold them this year here (I didn't know this as online it said they didn't). $18.99 for grown plants. About four varieties - all pink types.
chicago, illinois (Zone 6a)
peonyplan
Jun 22, 2017 11:10 AM CST
@Oberon46 Are those prices for tree peonies? That is really attractive. I plant a tree peony in late May and the same thing, grew for several days and then totally stopped. I wonder if it is the temperature and daylight duration and the interrupted growing cycle. I started last March so you can tell I have only several plants. It is a hard time when you know early in the year you have to wait another year to see the growth.
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Oldgardenrose
Jun 22, 2017 12:55 PM CST
My only experience of some years ago with tree peonies was a package of 3, all with Chinese names, from Spring Hill or Brecks. Arrived as bone-dry sticks about 18 inches tall, with almost no roots. One put out a couple of leaves then died. I noticed each of them had several small scars along their stems which struck me as being strange. After some self education on tree peonies, I assumed the scars were from trimming buds off to be used in grafting. Not a whole lot of money involved but was a cheap lesson. Reinforced that old statement of you get about what you pay for.
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Oberon46
Jun 26, 2017 9:03 PM CST
Oh yeah. In my experience Brecks are shysters - they photo shop big time. Not honest. Spring Hill is kind of on again/off again. Sometimes they do okay other times not. Hardly worth the gamble considering how long we wait to see what we are to receive, and then wait to see if it grows much less blooms. I will pay the 'freight' and gamble on known dependable suppliers.

@poenyplan. No they were herbaceous. Those prices would have been laughable for TP's. Would not consider them.

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