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Name: Tin
New Jersey, USA (Zone 7b)
tinng321
Jun 10, 2017 1:24 PM CST
I purchased these plants on ebay. I received them on Monday and potted them on Wednesday. I watered them after I potted them. I also water them Friday morning. The white area on each plant is a little softer than the green area. Is that normal? Or did I gave them too much water?
Also, I currently have them in full sun. Is that ok or should I move them into thee shade? The next two 3 days will be sunny and in the 90s.

Thanks,
Tin


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Name: Carter Mayer
Houston, TX (Zone 9b)
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Carter
Jun 10, 2017 1:42 PM CST
The white part are roots that the original grower had buried (up to where they turn gray/green). You should repot them lower to where they are at the same level. Also, it is normal for them to be somewhat soft after having been shipped barefoot, but if you keep watering them, you are running a high risk of causing root rot. You should only water them once after initially repotting, and them check them every day or two until you feel the stem starting to firm up. They should start showing some signs of growth as well. At that time you can begin to water them as the soil dries out.
Name: Tin
New Jersey, USA (Zone 7b)
tinng321
Jun 10, 2017 2:06 PM CST
Carter said:The white part are roots that the original grower had buried (up to where they turn gray/green). You should repot them lower to where they are at the same level. Also, it is normal for them to be somewhat soft after having been shipped barefoot, but if you keep watering them, you are running a high risk of causing root rot. You should only water them once after initially repotting, and them check them every day or two until you feel the stem starting to firm up. They should start showing some signs of growth as well. At that time you can begin to water them as the soil dries out.

So, I shouldn't expose those white roots? And should I move them into the shade?
Name: Audrey
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Esperanza
Jun 11, 2017 4:10 PM CST
Tin, it is alright to expose the roots but they need to be acclimated slowly to the sun or they can burn. Carters advice on watering is what I would do. Do you mind me asking what seller on ebay you purchased these from? A seller I bought from before has similar tags on them.
Name: Carter Mayer
Houston, TX (Zone 9b)
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Carter
Jun 11, 2017 7:18 PM CST
I would bury up to the white parts and slowly expose the roots over subsequent repotting. Plus, I'd keep the plant in some shade until it gets acclimated to your area and then gradually move it to more sun exposure over a few weeks till you get it into full (or nearly full) sun.

Reality is, these guys are fairly tough plants, and whatever you do, the most important thing right now is just do not overwater until it acclimated, the stem firms up, and you begin to see new growth. Then you can begin to give it more water as long as it is actively growing.
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Name: Tin
New Jersey, USA (Zone 7b)
tinng321
Jun 14, 2017 12:57 PM CST
Esperanza said: Tin, it is alright to expose the roots but they need to be acclimated slowly to the sun or they can burn. Carters advice on watering is what I would do. Do you mind me asking what seller on ebay you purchased these from? A seller I bought from before has similar tags on them.

Thank you.

I bought them from pinkangelwingherb.
Name: Tin
New Jersey, USA (Zone 7b)
tinng321
Jun 14, 2017 1:00 PM CST
Carter said:I would bury up to the white parts and slowly expose the roots over subsequent repotting. Plus, I'd keep the plant in some shade until it gets acclimated to your area and then gradually move it to more sun exposure over a few weeks till you get it into full (or nearly full) sun.

Reality is, these guys are fairly tough plants, and whatever you do, the most important thing right now is just do not overwater until it acclimated, the stem firms up, and you begin to see new growth. Then you can begin to give it more water as long as it is actively growing.


I expose them slowly to the sun. Now I have them in full sun and they seem to be doing fine. I do see that they are starting to shoot out new leaves. Thank you for your kind advice.
Name: Tin
New Jersey, USA (Zone 7b)
tinng321
Jun 14, 2017 1:03 PM CST
This is the oldest member. Bought it in BJ's 5 or 6 years ago. It has been hot the past 3 days. Reaching 95f in 3 consecutive days. This is the end result.
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Name: Audrey
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Esperanza
Jun 14, 2017 2:24 PM CST
tinng321 said:
Thank you.

I bought them from pinkangelwingherb.


That is the seller I was thinking it was. I bought blue dragon and exotic purple from that seller. Blue dragon has new buds forming so I am excited to see the blooms for the first time since purchasing. Please keep us posted on how yours are doing.
Name: Tin
New Jersey, USA (Zone 7b)
tinng321
Jun 14, 2017 6:43 PM CST
Esperanza said:

That is the seller I was thinking it was. I bought blue dragon and exotic purple from that seller. Blue dragon has new buds forming so I am excited to see the blooms for the first time since purchasing. Please keep us posted on how yours are doing.

I hope the flowers and colors are as advertised. I will post an update. I purchased 8 from him.
Name: Audrey
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Esperanza
Jun 14, 2017 8:32 PM CST
tinng321 said:
I hope the flowers and colors are as advertised. I will post an update. I purchased 8 from him.


You were very adventurous purchasing eight. I got blue dragon a few months ago and was going to see what the blooms look like before any more purchases from that seller but I had a few bucks in paypal and ebay makes it so easy to click and buy. Ha ha. I sure hope they come at least close to what is advertised. I'll show you some pics of mine when they bloom.
Edit to add ....What ones did you get? Some new ones up this week that I was really tempted by.
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Name: Audrey
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Esperanza
Jun 15, 2017 2:51 PM CST
Here is the blue dragon buds with its guard. That little green spider has not moved in two days. Those buds are well protected Big Grin

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Name: Tin
New Jersey, USA (Zone 7b)
tinng321
Jun 16, 2017 7:42 AM CST
Very nice. I hope the flowers come out as advertised..

These are the 8 that I purchased. One is arabicum

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5 layers yellow moon

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Dark flaming torch

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Black magic

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Royal star marigold

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Deep Purple

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7th white heaven

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Sunset mangosteen


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BrettNature
Jun 23, 2017 3:14 PM CST
Greetings Tin!

Apparently you like to grow your plants similar to myself by leaning them at angles to create bonsai? AWESOME!

From my experience, you CAN do this growing technique with great success. However, too much direct sun and heat of the day can burn the soft white areas you have exposed. Typically, I always up pot my plants once or twice every two years which is basically what you are doing here to expose more of the root system. These plants seem to grow more vigorously during the first two to three years and I would recommend giving your plants morning sun BEFORE the heat of the day at this size.

The trick that works best in my grow zone—I am NOT an expert—is to avoid full sun during the middle of the day when UV rays are the highest. I like to keep my "bonsai" projects shaded from direct sun during the middle of the day. I have experimented with sunrise and sunsets with mixed results for about 10 years.

The plants I have exposed to late afternoon and evening sun often get a golden color or burn. And, plants that I offer morning sun seemingly keep the natural colors of the caudex. Below are some photos from my experimentations.

The plant on the right was raised with afternoon and evening sun and it's about seven years old. Note the golden color of the caudex.

The plant with the twisted caudex (in the back) is about 10 years old and was raised with morning sunlight. Note the natural color of the caudex.

Although the golden color of the caudex is desirable I did loose some plants and always prefer morning sun now.

Have fun and experiment to find out what works best for you! :-)

Cheers!

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Name: Tin
New Jersey, USA (Zone 7b)
tinng321
Jun 23, 2017 10:44 PM CST
BrettNature said:Greetings Tin!

Apparently you like to grow your plants similar to myself by leaning them at angles to create bonsai? AWESOME!

From my experience, you CAN do this growing technique with great success. However, too much direct sun and heat of the day can burn the soft white areas you have exposed. Typically, I always up pot my plants once or twice every two years which is basically what you are doing here to expose more of the root system. These plants seem to grow more vigorously during the first two to three years and I would recommend giving your plants morning sun BEFORE the heat of the day at this size.

The trick that works best in my grow zone—I am NOT an expert—is to avoid full sun during the middle of the day when UV rays are the highest. I like to keep my "bonsai" projects shaded from direct sun during the middle of the day. I have experimented with sunrise and sunsets with mixed results for about 10 years.

The plants I have exposed to late afternoon and evening sun often get a golden color or burn. And, plants that I offer morning sun seemingly keep the natural colors of the caudex. Below are some photos from my experimentations.

The plant on the right was raised with afternoon and evening sun and it's about seven years old. Note the golden color of the caudex.

The plant with the twisted caudex (in the back) is about 10 years old and was raised with morning sunlight. Note the natural color of the caudex.

Although the golden color of the caudex is desirable I did loose some plants and always prefer morning sun now.

Have fun and experiment to find out what works best for you! :-)

Cheers!

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Thank you for the tips. I usually leave mine out during the summer months. They usually get full sun from 10ish to 7-8ish. I've noticed that they thrive and produce more flowers in full sun. I've never lost a plant to too much heat. Last year I planted more than 60 seeds and most (about 95%) germinated. In total, I think I've lost 2 plants out of all that germinated. Several weeks ago I've decided to give away 2/3 of the seedlings.
Name: Tin
New Jersey, USA (Zone 7b)
tinng321
Jul 3, 2017 7:11 AM CST
Esperanza said:

That is the seller I was thinking it was. I bought blue dragon and exotic purple from that seller. Blue dragon has new buds forming so I am excited to see the blooms for the first time since purchasing. Please keep us posted on how yours are doing.

Flower bud already?


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Name: Audrey
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Esperanza
Jul 3, 2017 2:21 PM CST
Alright, you got buds Hurray! . My first big bud on mine dropped and the second one beginning to open is red with white blotchy stripes Blinking Not what I was expecting but I guess the plant is still young and blooms will improve. I will try and get a photo if it opens more. It looks like the bloom might not make it before it opens all the way. Sighing!
Name: Audrey
Central Texas (Zone 8a)
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Esperanza
Jul 4, 2017 8:54 AM CST
Here is the first blue dragon bloom. The insides are a little purple on tips of the petals. Hopefully the next blooms will be better.
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Name: Tin
New Jersey, USA (Zone 7b)
tinng321
Jul 4, 2017 10:36 AM CST
Esperanza said: Here is the first blue dragon bloom. The insides are a little purple on tips of the petals. Hopefully the next blooms will be better.
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That is a beautiful color.
Name: Audrey
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Esperanza
Jul 16, 2017 1:23 PM CST
@tinng321 I had to take some pictures of these flowers moving around. Maybe this adenium should be named dancing dragon rather than blue dragon. I have never seen any other of my adenium flowers do that before. I had to take photos to prove to myself I was not imagining things. Has yours opened yet? Does it dance? Hilarious! Blinking Confused
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