Peonies forum: Time to kill off those unwanted peonies!

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Name: Frank Richards
Clinton, Michigan

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frankrichards16
Jun 11, 2017 11:23 AM CST
OK, I am going to deep six some of my undesirable peonies this year.

First on my list is Paeonia 'Claire de Lune'

A so called YELLOW single. I bought this from Wild a few years ago, I sent them a photo asking "where's the yellow" and they responded that sure enough the peony they sent me was true to name.

I have these photos. I included a Dahlia that I have with the same name, Clair de lune... I include it here to demonstrate the concept of yellow.


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I have other peonies that are on the chopping block... more to come!


Name: Nancy
Bowling Green Kentucky (Zone 6b)
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alilyfan
Jun 11, 2017 2:35 PM CST
I've seen photos where I thought Claire looked very pretty, very simple cream color. Definitely a disappointment if you are looking for yellow!
Name: Frank Richards
Clinton, Michigan

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frankrichards16
Jun 11, 2017 4:26 PM CST
@alilyfan

cream would be good. White is white:)

When it first opens, I see a touch of pink.
Name: Alex
Toronto, Ontario
Region: Canadian
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AlexUnder
Jun 11, 2017 4:32 PM CST
I am actually surprised that yours is pinkish, the ones I saw in Edwards Garden are rather cream. It is different - could be just mixed up. Nothing wrong about getting rid of non-performing peonies and everybody taste is different. Sell it or donate it to someone - it is a waste just to throw it away.


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Name: Frank Richards
Clinton, Michigan

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frankrichards16
Jun 11, 2017 5:47 PM CST
At this point I am fairly sure that what I purchased as Peony 'Claire de Lune' is not true to name.

I have 98 named peonies. Several names are in question..

I have mixed feelings about those that I cannot ID.

If you collect peonies, what good are peonies that you cannot identify?

Name: Jerry
Salem, IL
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Oldgardenrose
Jun 11, 2017 7:03 PM CST
I have always believed that a rose by any other name would still smell as sweet, or words to that effect. When I dabbled in iris, I had dozens of noids which I enjoyed more than the few named ones. Same with peonies. For me, the only time names come into play is when I pass them around. I never try to id a noid since it is risky at best. Many people, however, maintain large gardens where ids are important for keeping track of the present ones to prevent duplicate orders.
Name: Anya
Fairbanks, AK (Zone 3b)
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anyagoro
Jun 11, 2017 7:06 PM CST
I like to know what I purchase but if something looks great to me I would leave it, otherwise I would donate it, I don't like to kill plants on purpose.
Name: Carol H. Sandt
Lancaster County, Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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csandt
Jun 11, 2017 7:27 PM CST
@frankrichards16,

Does your 'Claire de Lune' that is not 'Claire de Lune' bloom very, very early? I ordered 'Claire de Lune' from Wild several years ago, and only one was pale yellow and bloomed very early in the season.

The other two were probably 'Krinkled White' or something similar that bloomed later. Wild credited me for the two that bloomed later.

I love the one 'Claire de Lune' that appears correct, especially because of its early bloom time.
Carol H. Sandt

“Once you stop learning, you start dying.” – Albert Einstein
Name: Frank Richards
Clinton, Michigan

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frankrichards16
Jun 11, 2017 8:50 PM CST
Claire de Lune is supposed to be early. Mine is mid season...

Name: Tracey
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magnolialover
Jun 12, 2017 3:50 AM CST

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A reminder for all that those seedlings you wish to dump or cultivars you want to get rid of, they are great root stock for your grafting of tree peonies.
Tracey
Name: Carol H. Sandt
Lancaster County, Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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csandt
Jun 12, 2017 7:04 AM CST
@frankrichards16,
I sympathize with your frustration that what was sold as 'Claire de Lune' turned out to be a mid-season bloomer.

Among my peonies, which are all herbaceous or intersectional, 'Claire de Lune' is the first to bloom, well ahead of all others, and is my only cultivar that blooms that early. I too am frustrated by giving up garden space to the two non-'Claire de Lunes' which bloom along with the deluge of mid-season bloomers.

My real 'Claire de Lune' needs some company!
Carol H. Sandt

“Once you stop learning, you start dying.” – Albert Einstein
Name: Frank Richards
Clinton, Michigan

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frankrichards16
Jun 12, 2017 3:00 PM CST
Here is a photo that shows a pink tint...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/...

it is a good looking flower:)
Name: Carol H. Sandt
Lancaster County, Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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csandt
Jun 12, 2017 3:14 PM CST
Pink tint on 'Claire de Lune'? I am confused.
Mine shows only the palest yellow, and to see the yellow, I need to look early in the day. Later on the bloom looks white.
Carol H. Sandt

“Once you stop learning, you start dying.” – Albert Einstein
Name: Anya
Fairbanks, AK (Zone 3b)
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anyagoro
Jun 13, 2017 1:00 AM CST
Definitely it is not Claire de Lune and if it is not yellowish and not early. Looks like Krinkled White or similar, very pretty!
Name: Mary Stella
Anchorage, AK (Zone 4b)
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Oberon46
Jun 14, 2017 8:52 AM CST
The KW in our gardens has no pink whatsoever. Pure white. Frank's mystery peony could be anything. Not much to distinguish it.
Name: Frank Richards
Clinton, Michigan

Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
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frankrichards16
Jun 14, 2017 11:01 AM CST
We should probably name and register it...

I was thinking...

Peonia 'Wild Pure White de Lune'
Name: Frank Richards
Clinton, Michigan

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frankrichards16
Jun 15, 2017 2:10 PM CST
or,

how about 'Wild White Who Knows'
Name: Carol H. Sandt
Lancaster County, Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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csandt
Jun 15, 2017 2:24 PM CST
frankrichards16 said:or,

how about 'Wild White Who Knows'


Or 'Wild and White and Who Knows What'? It has a more poetic rhythm.
Carol H. Sandt

“Once you stop learning, you start dying.” – Albert Einstein

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