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Name: June
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JuneOntario
Jun 12, 2017 9:25 AM CST
The one thing I noticed right away when I moved to North America was the difference in attitude to history. I grew up in England surrounded by history (Bronze-age hill forts, Roman villas, Saxon churches, Norman castles, Medieval market towns, Renaissance palaces). The house I lived in as a child was built in the 1700's and seemed quite modern compared to a Tudor house. Here in the New World, however, stuff that I thought of as recent (Georgian, Victorian) is considered immensely old. As an English child in the 1950's WWII was ever present in the form of war-time utility furniture in the home, my parents' stories about the black-out, fire-watching, and food rationing, and - when we got our first TV in the late 1950's - the almost nightly watching of war movies. Even as late as the 1970's there were still "bomb sites" in big towns, where the ruins of houses flattened by the Luftwaffe had been left to lie under a blanket of weeds. It took Europe a long, long time to recover from WWII, physically and mentally. I think I only became aware of and interested in post-war history after I emigrated.
Name: Annie
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LysmachiaMoon
Jun 12, 2017 12:25 PM CST
I think we Americans need to pay far more attention to history than we do. Especially 20th century history. "those who forget history tend to repeat it" was never more true. It really is a matter of where you live; Here on the East Coast of US, in Southcentral PA, we have quite a few homes that are 200+ years (mere babes compared to UK...) and a lot of Revolutionary War sites. My friend in California is amazed: Nothing much in LA (as far as homes, commercial buildings) goes back much before the 1920s! So it's all relative. I'm a real history buff!
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jmorth
Jun 12, 2017 1:12 PM CST
I 'm really into history myself, especially medieval Europe (100 Years War) and the American Civil War. I graduated college with a history major. Museums and botanical gardens are my favorite places to visit (along with rock collecting sites). I'm an avid reader of history and historical fiction, maybe one in every four books read is historical in content.
I would love to visit Europe, I'd immerse myself in sites like June mentions.
Unfortunately having a meaningful conversation with someone on matters of historical emphasis is a relatively rare occurrence. I'm pretty much restricted to my wife (historically set movies and TV documentaries) and her brother (a Civil War buff).
It was refreshing to note in the recent threads box a reference to here.
Nothing that's been done can ever be changed.
Name: June
Rosemont, Ont. (Zone 4a)
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JuneOntario
Jun 12, 2017 3:53 PM CST
@jmorth , if you'd love to visit Europe, don't wait, book a flight! Plan to go in November or March when the prices are off-season, there is less crowding, the weather is fairly warm, and everything is open. Go by yourself, with a Rick Steves guide book for advice. From the major cities you can take day trips, either with an escorted tour or on public transport by yourself, to historical sites in the countryside. I know Rome and parts of London pretty well, so if you'd like tips on hotels, transportation, restaurants, museums, palaces, and gardens in either city, just let me know.

Now Annie, I knew you would bring up the Revolutionary War. It was a humiliating defeat for us Brits, but at least we still have Canada (sort of).
Name: Annie
Waynesboro, PA (Zone 6a)
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LysmachiaMoon
Jun 13, 2017 9:40 AM CST
June, I may take you up on your offer of tips on London travel. I'm hoping to make a visit in the next couple of years (when I get the time!). I was in the UK back in the late 1970s and LOVED it. I wish I had never come home. And sorry about that Revolution thing....my family was not involved...they were still growing potatoes in Poland until 1913! *LOL*
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jmorth
Jun 13, 2017 10:00 AM CST
That's a suburb, inviting offer or opportunity that I'd love to actualize though I've reservations about implementation at present.
'don't wait, book a flight' - I certainly like that idea! I would but that I could.
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