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Foster, Oklahoma (Zone 7b)
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Jun 19, 2017 10:29 AM CST
I've tried growing both Cherokee Purple and Black Krim tomatoes in compost and manure amended beds in my acidic silty clay soil in south-central Oklahoma. They both produced, but without a trace of purple. Also, I'm growing yellow coneflowers that start blooming somewhat yellowish then turn light purple. The same plants remain yellow in my sister's sandy alkaline soil about 120 miles further west. Is there possibly something in my soil chemistry that's amiss?
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Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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Jun 19, 2017 11:40 AM CST
Do you have a burn pile?
I'd try adding some ash to the beds as an experiment.
No ashes? Lime will be a bit slower.... But it's state of the art for improving acidic soils.

My tomatoes were red last year.... Supposed to be black... So... You might just be on to something.
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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Jun 19, 2017 12:04 PM CST
As soil Ph changes, nutrients within the soil become more or less available to the plants. The compost and manure are raising the Ph, as will wood ash or lime.

You may want to get a soil test to determine Ph, what you are missing and how much you should add.
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Peachtree City, GA (Zone 7b)
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Jun 21, 2017 3:03 PM CST
This is my first time planting a Cherokee Purple. This plant is huge but only a few tomatoes at the bottom. So why so few tomatoes and how can you tell when when they are ripe?
Thumb of 2017-06-21/thequeen770/80d9a9 The plant in the back is the one with ripening tomatoes. The one in front has a few tomatoes but all very green.

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Foster, Oklahoma (Zone 7b)
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Jun 23, 2017 6:12 AM CST
Stone and Daisyl, thank you for your advice. I have a wood stove and also compost everything, so both are part of the garden routine. I definitely need a soil test, just haven't gotten around to it. Queen 770, yours have a bit more duskiness than mine. Cherokee Purple was a rambling monster for me as well. I've caged the Black Krim or it would be the same way.

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