Daylilies forum: Are there any clear oranges out there?

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Name: Julie
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floota
Jun 29, 2017 11:42 AM CST
Wow, maybe I'm not understanding what you are looking for, because some of the pictures posted look like gold to me.
Three that grow here come to mind as what I'd call a clear orange.

The first two are by Ellen LaPrise from New England, so they might not do well in extreme southern climates.

BOB MARLEY and FLAMING FLAMINGO

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Also, David Kirchhoff's GLORIOUS AUTUMN.



Name: Charley
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Charlemagne
Jun 29, 2017 12:09 PM CST
HOUSE OF ORANGE

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Photo of Daylily (Hemerocallis 'House of Orange') uploaded by MaryNE to our plant database (lots of photos available in the DB)

scape height 27 in, (69 cm)
bloom size 5.25 in, (13 cm)
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Judith Weston 1990

Dark glasses needed for this wonderful glowing oldie. In my zone 7 garden this hem increased steadily and drew attention from everyone.

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Name: Judy
Louisiana (Zone 9b)
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judydu2
Jun 29, 2017 2:42 PM CST
If the color of a bloom matches the color of orange juice, I feel safe in calling the color orange.
Name: Ken
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CaliFlowers
Jul 28, 2017 8:00 PM CST
Oscie Whatley's 'At Sunset' has been very nice here, and is a glowing orange, with thick, plastic substance. Open by sunup, and very intense, particularly at sunset, as you'd suspect. Smiling

@Scatterbrain Awesome seedling. Are you growing it?
Name: bron
NSW-Qld border Australia
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bron
Jul 29, 2017 8:47 AM CST
Even given the variation that can occur in blooms on the same plant, and between photos taken minutes apart, I have some that regardless of their registered description, I would mostly call gold or golden yellow rather than orange.
CLOCKWORK
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COLLIER
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Some that I would call reddish orange/(tangelo coloured), also show a range in depth of colour.
TROPICAL HEAT WAVE,
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HOT WIRE
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HOT BRONZE which can be golden orange to a deep reddish orange. A pity it gets rust badly.
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I would call SPACECOAST RUFFLES light orange. Maybe a tiny bit pinkish like the colour 'apricot' which is not as orange as the colour of the fruit.
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MAKING A SPLASH is a deeper, brighter pinkish bright orange double, and one of my favourites.

I have self seeded calendulas flowering now, and have been thinking that except for a couple of NOIDs, I don't have any Hems like their colour.
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But I have some new plants that might yet qualify, viz. CALISTOGA SUN
Name: Elena
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bxncbx
Jul 29, 2017 5:47 PM CST
I don't think this is what you are looking for but Marmalade Muncher is definitely orange. It does have some pink shades to it. But so far for me it is an extremely bright neon orange!



Name: Ginny G
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Jul 29, 2017 8:48 PM CST
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Name: Bob
Bellevue, NE. (Zone 5b)
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Jul 30, 2017 5:12 PM CST
Fiery Dragon Tears For Jane. A 2013 Gossard/Saliaris introduction finally starting to look good after a slow growth in my Zone 5 garden
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Name: bron
NSW-Qld border Australia
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bron
Sep 23, 2017 10:36 PM CST
Not the best photo I'm sorry. But my first 3 blooms on SARSAPARILLA have been shades of clear light orange. Today's, the last image, was a deeper shade than earlier blooms when it was a bit cooler. They were lighter, more a creamy (but 'white', not yellow) orange. Today's looks a bit more yellow than reality. Recently hot and windy. They all have matched the rose Crepuscule very well. Also, excellent substance.

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Name: Nikki
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Scatterbrain
Sep 24, 2017 6:04 AM CST
CaliFlowers said:Oscie Whatley's 'At Sunset' has been very nice here, and is a glowing orange, with thick, plastic substance. Open by sunup, and very intense, particularly at sunset, as you'd suspect. Smiling

@Scatterbrain Awesome seedling. Are you growing it?


@CaliFlowers -sorry , Ken, I missed your question when you first posted it. Yes, that seedling is staying. I'm not usually an orange fan but I like this one because of the shading. It is in its second year of blooming here so will see how it does next year but has looked good both years so far.

Will move it to a bigger pot in spring and decide on a garden name for her at the end of next year.
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Polymerous
Oct 7, 2017 2:47 PM CST
I have at least a couple of the plants previously mentioned, 'Clockwork' and 'Heavenly Dragon Fire'. I wouldn't call the first "orange".... maybe a sort of melon. 'Heavenly Dragon Fire', while pleasingly eye-zorchingly orange, looks very muddy to me on close inspection. (Much as many pinks are muddy.)

Many of the "oranges" mentioned in this thread look gold to me, or maybe melon-ish. 'Heavenly Dragon Fire' looks orange, or maybe more correctly red-orange.

Thanks to all who posted.... food for thought.
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Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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needrain
Oct 7, 2017 3:38 PM CST
@Polymerous
I've been really interested in this thread. I personally like screaming orange - and mostly anything orange - but I'm not clear on what the definition of 'clear orange' would be.

There is a fine line between gold and the sunset colors (e.g. 'Coral Crab') where I would consider them not quite orange. I have a few that have have enough brown or rust in the shade of color where they obviously aren't clear orange and end up being burnt orange or something along those lines. Even one like 'Primal Scream' might get the scream from having some red contributing (the surface will scratch off some). Otherwise I have some that I just consider orange, either a light orange like 'Selma Longlegs'; medium orange like 'Orange You Clever' and 'Tigereye Spider', or really red-orange like 'Big Honking Brazen Hussy' (the surface doesn't scratch off).

Can you give a floral example of a bloom that you would consider 'clear orange'? It doesn't have to be a daylily bloom. I have other orange references like orange marigolds as opposed to those that just a deep, deep gold. Or the blooms on 'Mexican Flame Vine' and 'Trumpet Vine'. I'm just curious and I'll look them up if I'm not directaly familiar with them. Thanks.
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Name: bron
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bron
Oct 29, 2017 4:40 PM CST
I have had several new hems flower. Some I would call nothing but orange altho these pics look yellowish:
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HOT WIRE medium and darker orange

Name: Ginny G
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Legalily
Oct 29, 2017 8:23 PM CST
Good oranges Bron Thumbs up
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Name: Nick Barth
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mainer35
Mar 17, 2018 9:01 AM CST
There are numerous orange daylilies which have been hybridized and are being grown in the United States and Canada. I would suggest
SPARKLING ORANGE and DAMARISCOTTA RIVER GREAT PUMPKIN. Both are excellent tetraploids for the north.

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Name: Sue Petruske
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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petruske
Mar 18, 2018 9:42 PM CST
I have a number of, what I call "orange" daylilies: Avante Garde, Blazing Lamp Sticks, Chesapeake Crablegs, Frans Hals, Great Chieftain, Indian Ripple, Primal Scream, Rocket City, South Seas, Spacecoast Firestarter, Tonga, and Tuscawilla Tigress. WOW, I had no idea I had so many orange DL's until I looked through my plant list Shrug! . And that's not even counting the peach DL's.

In my opinion, Tuscawilla Tigress is a runner up, but Blazing Lamp Sticks is the one I would say is the most "orange" in my garden. It is in an area of the garden where it gets a little shade from tall trees and the orange just glows during the time of day when the slight shade is on it. It looks short in this picture but that is the first year I had it.

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hillbilly
Mar 19, 2018 10:55 AM CST
Orange seedling with clear color

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Name: Vickie
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blue23rose
Mar 19, 2018 11:57 AM CST
Wow, who knew the color orange could be so confusing Hilarious! I don't even know if I know what a clear orange would look like because even when I look at other daylilies, I have a difficult time telling if the color is clear or not.

Anyway, I have some oranges in various shades, but all described as orange in the database. Am hoping that someone can tell me if these fall in the 'clear' category.

Described as "orange pale coral blend with stenciled washed coral yellow eye and edge above green throat"


Described as simply "orange self above green throat"


Described as "orange with red eye and gold dusting above green to yellow throat"


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Name: Donald
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needrain
Mar 19, 2018 12:56 PM CST
Polymerous said:It has slowly sunk in to me that every orange (or orange-ish) daylily that I have, or have had, has had some degree of mud in the color. Some oranges (like 'Sir Clyde') aren't too bad, just not really clear like some pinks or lavenders can be. Other oranges, you can clearly see the yellow underlying the surface pigment, and the blooms are just yuckily muddy overall. The closest to a clear orange daylily that I have seen have been some melon daylilies - but those are melon, pastel, not the deep rich orange that I crave.

So ARE there (can there be, is it possible) any CLEAR oranges out there? Confused



The original post seemed to imply that there might not be any or very few daylilies that could be described as 'clear orange'. But I'm still not understanding the definition. I'd like someone to refer to some orange cultivars - preferably relatively well-known and viewed cultivars - and explain why they are or are not 'clear'. A continuum from not clear toward more clear would be nice. I'm growing several that are orange and several of those just seem orange to me and not much else but I suspect they may not be 'clear' in terms of the question.

Or I could name and/or post photos of a few I do grow and someone familiar with them could comment on their color. I'm assuming that a face or pattern isn't a criteria due the example used in the original post.
Donald
Name: Maryl
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Maryl
Mar 23, 2018 1:10 AM CST
I found some more images of what I consider orange. Some seem to favor more yellow/golden colors while I favor more red in my oranges..........Maryl

These Zinnias have a range of orange color:
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Cluster Muster:
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Don Diego
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Spirit Fox
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Venturing into the orange sherbert range: Tropical Hot Flash
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And back into deeper orange red range: Burning Inheritance
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