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Jun 23, 2017 11:12 AM CST
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Name: Lyndylu
Oregon's high desert (Zone 5b)
Now that the two months of spring bloom are nearly over, and I've tried cross-pollinating a couple of my irises, how soon would I expect to see seed pods form after the bloom has dried? I'm beginning to think my cross pollinating didn't take.
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Jun 23, 2017 12:06 PM CST
Name: Jan Wax
Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a)
I'm a semi-retired studio potter.
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There should be a swelling below the bloom by now, I would think. But give it a little more time, perhaps?

I didn't get the best results this year. Only 7 seedpods out of 40 crosses.
The upside is that several of these are highly anticipated!
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Jun 23, 2017 12:32 PM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Shortly after the flower is spent and starting to dry up some, you should be able to feel the swelling seed pod just below where the bloom is attached to it. I have some that started to develop, and then aborted the process shortly after. After a couple months there should be a large pod already. If not it didn't work.
I would never cross this many blooms on one stem, but Chardonnay And Ice set 4 bee pods on one stem. It could very well be that they are empty though, as many bee pods are. Funny thing is I have tried often to set a pod on it, and failed. I haven't tried in a long time. Maybe next year I will. Smiling
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Jun 23, 2017 6:36 PM CST
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Seed Starter
I am never sure if a pod is developing until about 11 days after pollination.

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After 11 days

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After 16 days
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Jun 24, 2017 12:40 PM CST
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
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Great example, Robin! Thumbs up

So far this year, I only have one pod from my own crosses (didn't make a lot this year) and one bee pod. I wait 2 weeks from pollination to see if a pod forms before I remove the stalk.
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Jun 24, 2017 5:32 PM CST
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Seed Starter
I don't remove any stalks I have pollinated until the spathe is so thin it is obvious a pod isn't forming.
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Jul 5, 2017 10:37 PM CST
Name: Elsa
Las Cruces, New Mexico (Zone 8a)
Dog Lover Irises Region: New Mexico Region: Southwest Gardening Region: United States of America
Out of 27 crosses (me and the bees), only 3 pods produced seeds and one of those appears to have immature mis-shaped seeds. I cross whatever though. I don't check on its breeding record -Could be why I have a low success. All my bee pods had empty seed pods. I never realized this is common, before reading this thread
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Jul 6, 2017 5:23 AM CST
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
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Most of my crosses must have rained out. I only got 3 pods and one bee pod out of around 20 attempts. Last year, I had about 50% success with my crosses without checking the fertility of the irises I used. I reckon if they are infertile, I'll notice sooner or later. Big Grin
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Jul 6, 2017 6:04 AM CST
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
Magnolia zone
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I spent a lot of time clipping off bloomstalks with bee pods forming. I always miss a few and get a few seedlings blooming near an established clump each year. Grumbling It seems like the ones the bees make are really hardy and if I did not dig them out when I first spot them they would manage to take over the space of the desired iris. I look for little new irises that are not connected to the clump when I am weeding too. I can just pull them out with the weeds. I have some areas set aside for seedlings and no room for any more. Shrug! If one or two bloom and they are really lovely.... then they are keepers. Big Grin
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Jul 6, 2017 7:28 AM CST
Name: Elsa
Las Cruces, New Mexico (Zone 8a)
Dog Lover Irises Region: New Mexico Region: Southwest Gardening Region: United States of America
Lili: 50% sounds great! I would. be elated if I had that success.

Bonnie: It sounds then like I should not rule out the bee pods. I will continue to check them.
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Jul 6, 2017 8:31 AM CST
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
Magnolia zone
Region: United States of America Region: Arkansas Master Gardener: Arkansas Irises Plant and/or Seed Trader Moon Gardener
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I think some pods that form are not bee pods but just wishful thinking from the plant. Well, you know what I mean. The plant is ready to be pollinated and to set a seed pod but not getting pollinated does not always stop the rest of the natural process from occurring.
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Jul 6, 2017 3:29 PM CST
Name: Barbara
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Cat Lover Dog Lover Irises Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Bonnie, many years ago we had horse and a dog do that.
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Jul 6, 2017 5:15 PM CST
Name: daphne
san diego county, ca (Zone 10a)
Vermiculture Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
hahaha. @iciris.
:lol: we had a silky terrier that thought she was pregnant after her heat. she had a little 4" stuffed toy armadillo that she would carry around, and nurse. she even had real milk in her teets. after a few days we would take her armadillo away, she'd whine and mope around for a few days, then she would get back to her normal self. she was our brood bitch so we didn't want to spay her, but we also didn't want to breed her every year.

after that last round of false pregnancies, we had her spayed.....so she wouldn't be so sad every six months. we also stopped showing our dogs. but, we had fun winning red and blue ribbons with our dogs.
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Jul 6, 2017 7:01 PM CST
Name: Barbara
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Cat Lover Dog Lover Irises Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Yep, the dog and horse had also made milk too.
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Jul 7, 2017 12:31 AM CST
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Seed Starter
Elsa, 3 pods out of 27 is heartbreaking :sad:.
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Jul 7, 2017 4:35 PM CST
Name: Jan Wax
Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a)
I'm a semi-retired studio potter.
Irises Hummingbirder Hellebores Organic Gardener Dog Lover Daylilies
Region: Ukraine Region: California Dahlias Garden Art Cat Lover Vegetable Grower
Yes, but there might be something wonderful in one of those 3 !!!
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Jul 8, 2017 5:15 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Daylilies Cat Lover Region: Wisconsin Celebrating Gardening: 2015
If I got 50% of my crosses to take, I'd be in deep trouble! I hardly know where to go with the ones I get. The peony I got from Polly has a nice pod of seeds, so I asked a friend who crosses peonies what I had to do the germinate the seeds. So now I have that information, and one bunch of seeds developing that I want to try to grow. We'll see how that works.
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Jul 8, 2017 5:45 PM CST
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Seed Starter
Good luck with the peony seeds Tom Crossing Fingers! .

I am starting to look at hybridizing other plants too. I looked around my garden and asked myself "What are my favourite plants?". I love irises, agapanthus, kniphofia (red hot pokers) and anigozanthos (kangaroo paw). There are some nice blends of colours in kangaroo paws and kniphofias, so they are my next hybridizing project. I read that Kangaroo Paws can flower from seeds after 1 year.... perfect! Now I just have to figure out the plant anatomy.
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Jul 10, 2017 5:55 AM CST
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
Irises Roses Bulbs Hellebores Foliage Fan Cottage Gardener
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Seed Starter Winter Sowing Bee Lover Dog Lover Region: Europe
Good luck with the not-iris projects, Tom and Robin! Crossing Fingers!
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Jul 10, 2017 4:32 PM CST
Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
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Hello, I am new at this and have never bred any iris, but I am considering it. I am not sure if I should get started with this if it takes several years, since I am 75. I am in pretty good health so I may give it a try.

How long does it take from developing a seed to bloom? Two or three years? Years go by quickly for me, so that part is no problem. What do you do after the pods form? Do you leave them on the stalk, or cut them off? Once you discover if you have seeds do you immediately refrigerate them until spring?

I hope that this is alright to ask questions here. If not, please steer me in the right direction. Confused

Of course this will only happen after the desired iris are in bloom. I have heard some that refrigerate pollen if the ones that you want to cross don't bloom at the same time.

Thank You! Evelyn
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