Irises forum: How soon do seed pods form?

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Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Irises Garden Photography Cat Lover Seed Starter
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Totally_Amazing
Jul 11, 2017 12:09 AM CST
It usually takes 2 to 3 years from the day the cross is made to the day it blooms, but it can be longer.

Several iris vendors have information on how to hybridize irises on their websites. I think they are a good source of information especially if you can find one near you or with a similar climate. There is a list a vendors in the top thread of this iris forum.

This is a link for the Australian Iris Society hybridizing information, which shows where to extract the pollen from and where to deposit it.
http://www.irises.org.au/Hybri...
There are also some demonstrations on youtube.

If the cross pollination was successful, a seed pod will form (refer pictures earlier in this thread). The pod needs to be left on the stalk until the seeds have matured (roughly 75 to 80 days). The seed pod will turn brown and crack open. I place an organza jewellery bag over the stalk to catch the seeds. The number of seeds in an iris pod varies but is generally less than 50. Each seed will produce a unique flower and I find I want to grow all of the seeds to see all of the variations of the cross. A lot of space is required.

In Australia, all I need to do to my seeds is let them dry out for a couple of days and then plant them in pots. I think I am the only person in this forum who does this. I will let an expert provide advice from here.

Name: Evelyn
Northern CA Sierra foothills - (Zone 8a)
Hybridizer Region: United States of America Region: California Annuals Bulbs Butterflies
Cat Lover Foliage Fan Irises Organic Gardener Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter
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evelyninthegarden
Jul 11, 2017 8:50 AM CST
Robin ~ Thank You!

Do you then put your pots in full sun, part sun, or shade?
“It was one of those March days when the sun shines hot and the wind blows cold, when it is summer in the light and winter in the shade.” ~Charles Dickens
(This seems to apply to May as well!)
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Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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tveguy3
Jul 11, 2017 8:54 AM CST
I think there's an entire thread somewhere on her about starting seeds, rather then repeating it all again, you might want to find it. It has lots of good info on it. Smiling
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Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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tveguy3
Jul 11, 2017 9:02 AM CST
OK, I went and looked it up, happy reading. Smiling
The thread "Starting iris seeds." in Irises forum
I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion. - Alexander the Great
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Irises Garden Photography Cat Lover Seed Starter
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Totally_Amazing
Jul 11, 2017 6:50 PM CST
I put my pots in dappled shade in summer and full sun in winter.

Thanks Tom Thank You! I didn't know how to link other threads into a post and I have just found out how to do it.
If anyone else wishes to learn how to do it The thread "How to share an old thread?" in Welcome forum
Name: Evelyn
Northern CA Sierra foothills - (Zone 8a)
Hybridizer Region: United States of America Region: California Annuals Bulbs Butterflies
Cat Lover Foliage Fan Irises Organic Gardener Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter
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evelyninthegarden
Jul 13, 2017 2:24 PM CST
tveguy3 said:OK, I went and looked it up, happy reading. Smiling
The thread "Starting iris seeds." in Irises forum


Tom ~ Thank You!
“It was one of those March days when the sun shines hot and the wind blows cold, when it is summer in the light and winter in the shade.” ~Charles Dickens
(This seems to apply to May as well!)
Name: Evelyn
Northern CA Sierra foothills - (Zone 8a)
Hybridizer Region: United States of America Region: California Annuals Bulbs Butterflies
Cat Lover Foliage Fan Irises Organic Gardener Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter
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evelyninthegarden
Jul 13, 2017 2:29 PM CST
Totally_Amazing said:I put my pots in dappled shade in summer and full sun in winter.

Thanks Tom Thank You! I didn't know how to link other threads into a post and I have just found out how to do it.
If anyone else wishes to learn how to do it The thread "How to share an old thread?" in Welcome forum


So you grow them for one year in their pots? then do you put them into full sun beds? The reason that I am asking, I am trying to assess as to what area in my fenced garden that I need to use. right now, there is a full (hot) sun area not being used. That is my most spacious area. Otherwise I will have to re-think the plan. We have 12 acres, and I may have to fence off a new area. This might be too much for me to handle, and maybe for the years to come.
“It was one of those March days when the sun shines hot and the wind blows cold, when it is summer in the light and winter in the shade.” ~Charles Dickens
(This seems to apply to May as well!)
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Irises Garden Photography Cat Lover Seed Starter
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Totally_Amazing
Jul 13, 2017 5:04 PM CST
Yes, I typically keep my seeds in pots for their first year and then plant them with my established rhizomes. Some were in full sun for about half the day.

Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Irises Vegetable Grower Butterflies Region: Wisconsin Keeps Horses Cat Lover
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tveguy3
Jul 13, 2017 7:16 PM CST
I start them in pots and then line them out when they are large enough to survive and early enough to establish themselves before winter. I would guess that winter is a non issue for you, Evelyn, so you could keep them in pots for a long time without a problem. I'd set them in the ground though when the weather cooled down some and you should get a lot to bloom in the second year with the long growing season you have. Once established full sun shouldn't hurt them I'd think. Maybe other people from your area would be a better source of information. Smiling Smiling
I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion. - Alexander the Great
Name: Evelyn
Northern CA Sierra foothills - (Zone 8a)
Hybridizer Region: United States of America Region: California Annuals Bulbs Butterflies
Cat Lover Foliage Fan Irises Organic Gardener Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter
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evelyninthegarden
Jul 13, 2017 10:38 PM CST
Would winter be a non-issue if we get several snow storms between November and April, with many times a hard frost following them?

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As I was looking back at the pictures in January, it looked as though we had several storms and snow was on the ground for most if if not all month.
“It was one of those March days when the sun shines hot and the wind blows cold, when it is summer in the light and winter in the shade.” ~Charles Dickens
(This seems to apply to May as well!)
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
Irises Roses Bulbs Hellebores Foliage Fan Cottage Gardener
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Seed Starter Winter Sowing Bee Lover Dog Lover Region: Europe
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IrisLilli
Jul 14, 2017 6:33 AM CST
I have had seedlings survive our winters just fine both in pots and in the ground. But if they are big enough to make it in the ground, I think that is best. Mine grow better once they're in the ground.
You don't know if it will grow until you try!
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Irises Vegetable Grower Butterflies Region: Wisconsin Keeps Horses Cat Lover
Dog Lover Keeper of Poultry Daylilies Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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tveguy3
Jul 15, 2017 9:40 AM CST
Iris like winter. Smiling
I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion. - Alexander the Great
Oregon's high desert (Zone 6a)
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LynnDel
Jan 20, 2018 6:26 PM CST
Coming back to this thread after a long absence. I posted the original question, and I did have some seed pods form, but they all had miscarriages (stopped growing and shriveled up). I can't think it was too much water, because I live in the high desert, and lack of water is more of a problem (iris leaves often have brown edges). I will be trying again this coming season.

Evelyn, I am thinking you wouldn't have to fence off an area to grow irises, unless you have a dog that likes to dig. Mine grow all over the place, unfenced. The deer leave them alone. I think sometimes a rabbit takes a nibble, but they don't like them. One clump even grows out by the road on the east side of a rock wall, and blooms away just fine, never is watered at all. We get only 9 inches of precipitation a year. I've tried putting more along that wall, but so far am unsuccessful.


Name: daphne
san diego county, ca (Zone 10a)
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shizen
Jan 20, 2018 11:02 PM CST
lynndel, welcome back. there are several members on this forum who have done their stratification, and have had their seedlings starting to "show". you might want to checkout the hybridizing thread?
Name: Evelyn
Northern CA Sierra foothills - (Zone 8a)
Hybridizer Region: United States of America Region: California Annuals Bulbs Butterflies
Cat Lover Foliage Fan Irises Organic Gardener Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter
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evelyninthegarden
Jan 20, 2018 11:16 PM CST
evelyninthegarden said:Would winter be a non-issue if we get several snow storms between November and April, with many times a hard frost following them?

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As I was looking back at the pictures in January, it looked as though we had several storms and snow was on the ground for most if if not all month.


That was LAST year. We had a hard frost last night, and possibly snow in the next storm. We haven't had snow at all....yet...

“It was one of those March days when the sun shines hot and the wind blows cold, when it is summer in the light and winter in the shade.” ~Charles Dickens
(This seems to apply to May as well!)

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