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Minneapolis - Saint Paul
padulles
Jun 23, 2017 6:54 PM CST
Hi there,

I'm trying to identify this shrub. Any idea? Thank you very much for your help.

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Name: Porkpal
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Jun 23, 2017 8:16 PM CST
Rough leaf dogwood?
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DaisyI
Jun 23, 2017 9:03 PM CST
Some sort of Dogwood.
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Leftwood
Jun 24, 2017 10:56 AM CST
Leaf venation does not fit dogwood.
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Frillylily
Jun 24, 2017 1:12 PM CST
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Coralberry (Symphoricarpos orbiculatus)

maybe this?
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Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Jun 24, 2017 1:24 PM CST
Coralberry lacks a terminal leaf.
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springfield MO area (Zone 6a)
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Frillylily
Jun 24, 2017 8:39 PM CST
I am not seeing a terminal leaf on the OP photos

? Looks like some of them do and some of them don't.
Minneapolis - Saint Paul
padulles
Jun 24, 2017 8:59 PM CST
Thank you guys for giving me a hand with this.

I'm not sure. Coralberry leaves look more sessile to me than the ones on the posted picture...
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Jun 24, 2017 9:55 PM CST

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Might be Amur Honeysuckle (Lonicera maackii)
springfield MO area (Zone 6a)
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Frillylily
Jun 24, 2017 10:00 PM CST
I have those on my property now, but they are more like little trees, taller than wide, but I guess that if you cut them off they would bush out?

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Frillylily
Jun 24, 2017 10:06 PM CST
padulles said:Thank you guys for giving me a hand with this.

I'm not sure. Coralberry leaves look more sessile to me than the ones on the posted picture...


I do see what you mean, yes. Maybe the newer growth looks a tad bit softer until it hardens up, I think new growth would have more flexible stems until they turn woody like the rest of the shrub. Has it ever bloomed, or had berries? What is the fall color? Does it send out runners and come up around it? It does seem to be something in the honeysuckle family. Maybe the coralberry is not right. It does look alot like the amur honeysuckle in my yard (except for the shape, but like I said, pruning changes things)
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Leftwood
Jun 25, 2017 6:47 AM CST
I can't think of any trees we might have in Minnesota that could possible look like that.
It might also be Kolkwitia amabilis.
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ScotTi
Jun 25, 2017 7:02 AM CST
My first thought was 'Jasminum multiflorum', but then I saw your St Paul location. Hilarious!
Minneapolis - Saint Paul
padulles
Jun 25, 2017 8:32 AM CST
Frillylily said:

I do see what you mean, yes. Maybe the newer growth looks a tad bit softer until it hardens up, I think new growth would have more flexible stems until they turn woody like the rest of the shrub. Has it ever bloomed, or had berries? What is the fall color? Does it send out runners and come up around it? It does seem to be something in the honeysuckle family. Maybe the coralberry is not right. It does look alot like the amur honeysuckle in my yard (except for the shape, but like I said, pruning changes things)


Hi there,

The thing is that I found this guy in a yard I was working in, so I'm not the owner. I have no answer to any of that questions, sorry. However, it definitely looks like as an amur honeysuckleas you point out. Thanks!
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plantladylin
Jun 25, 2017 8:38 AM CST
For comparison Beauty Bush (Linnaea amabilis) formerly known as Kolkwitzia
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padulles
Jun 25, 2017 8:39 AM CST
Leftwood said:I can't think of any trees we might have in Minnesota that could possible look like that.
It might also be Kolkwitia amabilis.


Yes, you might be right. They look pretty alike. Thank you.
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ViburnumValley
Jun 25, 2017 10:27 AM CST
It does NOT look like a Honeysuckle from the images provided; most Lonicera sp. have rather prominent buds along the stem (where leaves attach).

padulles could do us a favor. Since this plant appears to be rather obviously vigorous in growth, go ahead a prune out a healthy stem from near the crown (not one of the low ones laying on the ground, but one of the more upright stems).

Take that stem, and photo all parts of it laying down on a neutral background. The characteristics of older parts of the branch (two, three, four years old) will contrast with the younger current year or year-old stems. Also, evidence of former flowering/fruiting may be revealed, as well as more of the branching habit. Also, buds and bud scars don't lie or pretend to be something they are not - as a shrub that has been regularly pruned may not always evidence its identity by habit or incredibly similar leaf morphology.
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islander
Jun 25, 2017 10:41 AM CST
Diervilla?
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plantladylin
Jun 25, 2017 11:01 AM CST
It looks like so many things! Bush Honeysuckle is another that it resembles:https://www.minnesotawildflowers.info/shrub/bush-honeysuckle



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sooby
Jun 25, 2017 11:34 AM CST
islander said:Diervilla?


I had wondered about that too but Diervilla has slightly toothed leaf margins, these appear to be entire.

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