Daylilies forum: Color Difference between Sun and Shade

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Name: Vickie
Elberfeld, Indiana, USA (Zone 6b)
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blue23rose
Jun 24, 2017 10:56 AM CST
I went out to take pictures this morning and then was going to post a picture of Idiot Philanthropist in the database. But the color of the two pictures I saw that were already in the database were vastly different than my picture, I thought maybe I had gotten the wrong daylily. So I went back out two hours later with the same camera and same settings to take another picture. It has been very windy here this morning so that is why the coneflowers are not in the same place on these two pictures, but it is the same bloom in both.

Here is Idiot Philanthropist in mostly shade at 9:30 this morning:


And here is that same bloom at 11:45 this morning:


I think I will post both pictures and add a note that the first picture was taken in the shade. But it sure tells me that when someone wants identification, this is just another variable to add to the already difficult task of finding a name.



Vickie
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Name: Jill
Baltimore, MD (Zone 7a)
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Jillz
Jun 24, 2017 3:10 PM CST
blue23rose said:I went out to take pictures this morning and then was going to post a picture of Idiot Philanthropist in the database. But the color of the two pictures I saw that were already in the database were vastly different than my picture, I thought maybe I had gotten the wrong daylily. So I went back out two hours later with the same camera and same settings to take another picture. It has been very windy here this morning so that is why the coneflowers are not in the same place on these two pictures, but it is the same bloom in both.

Here is Idiot Philanthropist in mostly shade at 9:30 this morning:


And here is that same bloom at 11:45 this morning:


I think I will post both pictures and add a note that the first picture was taken in the shade. But it sure tells me that when someone wants identification, this is just another variable to add to the already difficult task of finding a name.



I have found that it is more than sun and shade with this bloom. This is one of those flowers that changes hue as the day progresses. Here are two shots both in shade of IP taken a couple of hours apart taken yesterday


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Name: Diana
Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b)
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ShakespearesGarden
Jun 24, 2017 4:20 PM CST
A yellow NOID that changes... First pic was at 10:30, the second at around 2:30...
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Athens, Ohio (Zone 6a)
mantisOH
Jun 24, 2017 7:14 PM CST
Low light can produce a bluing effect with images.
springfield MO area (Zone 6a)
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Frillylily
Jun 24, 2017 10:18 PM CST
I cannot take pics in shade/low light w my camera because the color is not right. It is not the lily, but my camera.
Reds and purples are really bad, and the foliage in the back ground will look bluish tint.
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jun 25, 2017 5:31 AM CST
@Frilly,
your camera probably has adjustments on it for sun, or shade, and other lighting situations. You may be missing your best shots by not taking advantage of those features. Shade can truely give you some great flower photos, bright sun is very hard to shoot in. Check the selections available under "White Balance". Even when shooting in Auto Mode, you often have some choices as to what "White Balance" the camera selects. "White Balance" being off is nearly always what makes the leaves look blue. Of course, that means the other colors are also affected.Some cameras do a great job in auto of adjusting for this, others do a really crappy job so you have to switch to manual mode, or some other mode that will allow for adjustment.
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Name: Vickie
Elberfeld, Indiana, USA (Zone 6b)
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blue23rose
Jun 25, 2017 9:36 AM CST
Jill, I am so glad that you had pictures showing the color difference on Idiot Philanthropist, too! It looks like a totally different flower to me. Thanks for posting those.

I did some adjustments to my camera early this season and found that I have finally hit on a combination that will give me more true to color pictures of my daylilies. I have been so disappointed in the past, but this year feel more confident with the coloring.

I am just guessing that hybridizers tend to register the color of their cultivars with however it looks in the sun. IP is registered as a rose pink. What a difference the sun/shade (and soil) makes!
Vickie
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Name: Vickie
Elberfeld, Indiana, USA (Zone 6b)
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blue23rose
Jun 25, 2017 9:49 AM CST
Diana, the time of day certainly makes a difference even on blooms in full sun all day. I am currently evaluating some seedlings and the difference between morning and evening is amazing! There are some beautiful blooms in the morning, but their color fades so much by the time I get home in the afternoon, I am probably going to cull them.

Frillylily, what mantisOH says is very true! I have the issue of the foliage in pictures looking blue also because I have to leave for work at 6:15am. But I know that by the time I get home at 4:30pm, the bloom will have faded and look ragged. So I take the picture anyway. Until I retire in a few years, this is what I am stuck with (except on weekends when I take waaaaay too many pictures to make up for all week, lol!).




Vickie
May all your weeds be wildflowers. ~Author Unknown
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Region: Alabama
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Seedfork
Jun 25, 2017 9:59 AM CST
If you find you cannot get the photo bright enough in the shade early in the morning, see if you can up your ISO(speed) rating. Just make sure the photos don't start looking grainy. I normally keep my camera set on ISO 200, but often in dark shade I have to up that to ISO 400.
Name: Vickie
Elberfeld, Indiana, USA (Zone 6b)
Bee Lover Garden Photography Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Region: United States of America
Region: Indiana Garden Art Annuals Clematis Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Level 2
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blue23rose
Jun 25, 2017 11:11 AM CST
Good idea, Larry. ISO is something I tend to forget to mess with.
Vickie
May all your weeds be wildflowers. ~Author Unknown
springfield MO area (Zone 6a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier
Frillylily
Jun 25, 2017 4:47 PM CST
well I am technically challenged so Whistling
I do have a photo enhancer I sometimes use but just change them so they actually look like they are supposed to. I can adjust the color, brightness and contrast. This will take out the blue thing for me. If I can't get it to look right, I just delete it. I take most of my pics around 10am before the sun gets too carried away so it usually isn't a problem.
springfield MO area (Zone 6a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier
Frillylily
Jun 25, 2017 4:48 PM CST
blue23rose said:Diana, the time of day certainly makes a difference even on blooms in full sun all day. I am currently evaluating some seedlings and the difference between morning and evening is amazing! There are some beautiful blooms in the morning, but their color fades so much by the time I get home in the afternoon, I am probably going to cull them.

Frillylily, what mantisOH says is very true! I have the issue of the foliage in pictures looking blue also because I have to leave for work at 6:15am. But I know that by the time I get home at 4:30pm, the bloom will have faded and look ragged. So I take the picture anyway. Until I retire in a few years, this is what I am stuck with (except on weekends when I take waaaaay too many pictures to make up for all week, lol!).






Maybe you have an older neighbors kiddo? that would come over a couple days a week and take some pics for you?

Name: Vickie
Elberfeld, Indiana, USA (Zone 6b)
Bee Lover Garden Photography Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Region: United States of America
Region: Indiana Garden Art Annuals Clematis Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Level 2
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blue23rose
Jun 27, 2017 11:12 AM CST
Frillylily, that is a good suggestion:) I will have to think about that. I might just ask my husband to do it since he is retired. He would do it for me if it were an occasional thing, but I doubt that he would do it regularly. It just isn't his thing, Rolling on the floor laughing !
Vickie
May all your weeds be wildflowers. ~Author Unknown
Name: Diana
Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b)
Daylilies Region: Nebraska Organic Gardener Dog Lover Bookworm
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ShakespearesGarden
Jun 29, 2017 8:50 PM CST
We've all noticed that certain conditions cause our cameras to pick up too much blue or yellow, and it throws off the actual color of the bloom. I used the filter feature on my iPad to see if I could get corrected color. It only worked on Sun Bear. On the others, the filter dropped too much of the blue... The photo was taken under overcast conditions. The top photo is the original...
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