Daylilies forum: My First Ever Hybridized Seedling

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Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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DogsNDaylilies
Jun 30, 2017 3:56 AM CST
After many days of thinking it would be 'the' day, my seedling has finally bloomed! As I write this first post, it is only 5:45 in the morning, and seedling is sleepy still, so I will take picture later in the day of its progress; but, so far, I love the deep red it is turning out to be. I'm really glad my first bloom is a deep red, not a pastel.

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Parentage:
Spider Man X (Olallie Keith Stone's Sunset?)

The reason for the question mark is that OKSS is a dip (confirmed many times over), but Spider Man is a TET. Or atleast it is supposed to be a TET. This was an oopsie pollination I made one day...but since Spider Man has been extremely difficult to hybridize with, if there is indication that this really could be a bloom with OKSS as the pollen parent, I may have to consider that Spider Man might actually take-or even prefer-diploid pollen.

More info (and pictures) to follow.


Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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DogsNDaylilies
Jun 30, 2017 3:59 AM CST
I should have added that I also had my first Spider Man bloom of the season yesterday, so this seedling is right on par with its parent plant this year in terms of bloom time.
NW Indiana (Zone 5b)
josieskid
Jun 30, 2017 4:13 AM CST
Congratulations! I love the color, and even the color of the bud!
Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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bxncbx
Jun 30, 2017 8:20 AM CST
Congrats DND! The question now is what is the seedling? I have a dip (NOID) that does accept some tet pollen so it happens. It should be easy to figure out if Spider Man is actually a dip by trying a lot of dip pollen on it. If it prefers dips you may have to accept that Spider Man is actually a dip and may be something that looks like Spider Man but actually isn't. For your seedling try both types of pollen and see what sets!

Don't make my mistake. I thought one of my first seedlings had to be a tet but couldn't get any pods on it with tet pollen and no other tets liked it's pollen. The next season I crossed it with dips and it set pods with no problem and it's pollen was fine. Lesson-never assume!

I also got an Olallie unregistered plant that they say is a tet but I'm sure it is a dip. Might have just been a mistake on the website.

By the way, that looks great for a first bloom! I wonder if the second bloom will be even darker!
Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
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kousa
Jun 30, 2017 8:48 AM CST
Congrats, DND! IT is so exciting to see one's first hybridized seedling. All of my seedlings are currently from seeds I bought on the LA or bee pods. I will be very thrilled indeed to see a bloom from my own crossing.
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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DogsNDaylilies
Jun 30, 2017 10:43 AM CST
That first picture is true to color, but I'm going to post more pictures to show how pretty it's form is. There is a *very* slight pinching on the petals, so maybe future blooms might be more pinched? Who knows? Right now, though, it looks a LOT like Ruby Spider, who just happened to bloom it's first bloom today. Wouldn't that be wacky if this was actually a Spider Man x Ruby Spider Cross that a bee did?...I will check my records and see if Ruby Spider was in bloom the day I pollinated Spider Man. Or maybe Spider Man selfed?...Or maybe it will change color and prove that its parentage is real? I know some tets do accept dips and vice versa...

For now, all I can go on is that it *should* be Spider Man x Olallie Keith Stone's Sunset.

Maybe OKSS is actually a tetraploid? Or maybe Spider Man is?...Or maybe they just happen to like each other? I don't see any indications of OKSS as a parent yet, but I'll keep my eye on it. OKSS is a somewhat smaller bloom, often changes color in the sun (from an intense coppery red all the way to a peachy orange with a red eye, depending on the weather), and has very curled petals. This bloom is 7", appears to be completely a deep, dark, velvety red without much recurve on the petals and no discernible eye.
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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DogsNDaylilies
Jun 30, 2017 10:49 AM CST

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Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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bxncbx
Jun 30, 2017 11:13 AM CST
DND does your seedling have any siblings? That's a good way of potentially narrowing down the possible pollen donors.

When my first tet seedling bloomed this year I would have sworn South Seas was the pollen parent. But the sibling is more purple red so now I'm suspecting Mineral Springs. That was the only purple daylily I had at the time. And some of the grandparents of MS are similar in color to the first seedling. A third sibling won't bloom until next year (runt of the litter).
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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DogsNDaylilies
Jun 30, 2017 1:40 PM CST
Funny you should mention that, I am eagerly awaiting a bloom from it's only other sibling...I'm guessing I should see that bloom in another 2-4 days.
Name: Avedon
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Avedon
Jun 30, 2017 2:06 PM CST
Congratulations, a very a pretty red.
(Zone 6a)
taylordaylily
Jun 30, 2017 2:07 PM CST
Hurray! Love the color! Your first seedling looks great. My first seedling was muddier than a pig sty. Hilarious! Congratulations! I tip my hat to you.
Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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bxncbx
Jun 30, 2017 3:10 PM CST
DND with that long pistil I don't think any bee could pollinate it except if they flew into it by accident! I never get bee pods on my cultivars that have such long ones. It must be something you crossed. I just hope you weren't like me and crossed everything with everything! No way to ever figure out who the daddy is! I'm trying to be better this year *Blush* . But as more crosses start failing I feel like I can't waste a single flower and there I go again, crossing everything with everything! Rolling on the floor laughing
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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DogsNDaylilies
Jun 30, 2017 3:31 PM CST
Elena, I am like you, I pollinate almost every bloom! I will say, though, I am very methodical and careful about my pollination. That's not to say that oopsies don't happen, but I am pretty good and pretty detailed in my record-keeping. Rolling my eyes.
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