Daylilies forum: My First Ever Hybridized Seedling

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Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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DogsNDaylilies
Jun 30, 2017 3:56 AM CST
After many days of thinking it would be 'the' day, my seedling has finally bloomed! As I write this first post, it is only 5:45 in the morning, and seedling is sleepy still, so I will take picture later in the day of its progress; but, so far, I love the deep red it is turning out to be. I'm really glad my first bloom is a deep red, not a pastel.

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Parentage:
Spider Man X (Olallie Keith Stone's Sunset?)

The reason for the question mark is that OKSS is a dip (confirmed many times over), but Spider Man is a TET. Or atleast it is supposed to be a TET. This was an oopsie pollination I made one day...but since Spider Man has been extremely difficult to hybridize with, if there is indication that this really could be a bloom with OKSS as the pollen parent, I may have to consider that Spider Man might actually take-or even prefer-diploid pollen.

More info (and pictures) to follow.


Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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DogsNDaylilies
Jun 30, 2017 3:59 AM CST
I should have added that I also had my first Spider Man bloom of the season yesterday, so this seedling is right on par with its parent plant this year in terms of bloom time.
Name: Mary
Crown Point, Indiana (Zone 5b)
josieskid
Jun 30, 2017 4:13 AM CST
Congratulations! I love the color, and even the color of the bud!
Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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bxncbx
Jun 30, 2017 8:20 AM CST
Congrats DND! The question now is what is the seedling? I have a dip (NOID) that does accept some tet pollen so it happens. It should be easy to figure out if Spider Man is actually a dip by trying a lot of dip pollen on it. If it prefers dips you may have to accept that Spider Man is actually a dip and may be something that looks like Spider Man but actually isn't. For your seedling try both types of pollen and see what sets!

Don't make my mistake. I thought one of my first seedlings had to be a tet but couldn't get any pods on it with tet pollen and no other tets liked it's pollen. The next season I crossed it with dips and it set pods with no problem and it's pollen was fine. Lesson-never assume!

I also got an Olallie unregistered plant that they say is a tet but I'm sure it is a dip. Might have just been a mistake on the website.

By the way, that looks great for a first bloom! I wonder if the second bloom will be even darker!
Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
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kousa
Jun 30, 2017 8:48 AM CST
Congrats, DND! IT is so exciting to see one's first hybridized seedling. All of my seedlings are currently from seeds I bought on the LA or bee pods. I will be very thrilled indeed to see a bloom from my own crossing.
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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DogsNDaylilies
Jun 30, 2017 10:43 AM CST
That first picture is true to color, but I'm going to post more pictures to show how pretty it's form is. There is a *very* slight pinching on the petals, so maybe future blooms might be more pinched? Who knows? Right now, though, it looks a LOT like Ruby Spider, who just happened to bloom it's first bloom today. Wouldn't that be wacky if this was actually a Spider Man x Ruby Spider Cross that a bee did?...I will check my records and see if Ruby Spider was in bloom the day I pollinated Spider Man. Or maybe Spider Man selfed?...Or maybe it will change color and prove that its parentage is real? I know some tets do accept dips and vice versa...

For now, all I can go on is that it *should* be Spider Man x Olallie Keith Stone's Sunset.

Maybe OKSS is actually a tetraploid? Or maybe Spider Man is?...Or maybe they just happen to like each other? I don't see any indications of OKSS as a parent yet, but I'll keep my eye on it. OKSS is a somewhat smaller bloom, often changes color in the sun (from an intense coppery red all the way to a peachy orange with a red eye, depending on the weather), and has very curled petals. This bloom is 7", appears to be completely a deep, dark, velvety red without much recurve on the petals and no discernible eye.
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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DogsNDaylilies
Jun 30, 2017 10:49 AM CST

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Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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bxncbx
Jun 30, 2017 11:13 AM CST
DND does your seedling have any siblings? That's a good way of potentially narrowing down the possible pollen donors.

When my first tet seedling bloomed this year I would have sworn South Seas was the pollen parent. But the sibling is more purple red so now I'm suspecting Mineral Springs. That was the only purple daylily I had at the time. And some of the grandparents of MS are similar in color to the first seedling. A third sibling won't bloom until next year (runt of the litter).
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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DogsNDaylilies
Jun 30, 2017 1:40 PM CST
Funny you should mention that, I am eagerly awaiting a bloom from it's only other sibling...I'm guessing I should see that bloom in another 2-4 days.
Name: Avedon
NE Tex (Zone 8a)
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Avedon
Jun 30, 2017 2:06 PM CST
Congratulations, a very a pretty red.
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taylordaylily
Jun 30, 2017 2:07 PM CST
Hurray! Love the color! Your first seedling looks great. My first seedling was muddier than a pig sty. Hilarious! Congratulations! I tip my hat to you.
Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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bxncbx
Jun 30, 2017 3:10 PM CST
DND with that long pistil I don't think any bee could pollinate it except if they flew into it by accident! I never get bee pods on my cultivars that have such long ones. It must be something you crossed. I just hope you weren't like me and crossed everything with everything! No way to ever figure out who the daddy is! I'm trying to be better this year *Blush* . But as more crosses start failing I feel like I can't waste a single flower and there I go again, crossing everything with everything! Rolling on the floor laughing
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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DogsNDaylilies
Jun 30, 2017 3:31 PM CST
Elena, I am like you, I pollinate almost every bloom! I will say, though, I am very methodical and careful about my pollination. That's not to say that oopsies don't happen, but I am pretty good and pretty detailed in my record-keeping. Rolling my eyes.
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