Plant ID forum: Plant ID. Possible poison ivy?

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Rachelfaith05
Jul 1, 2017 2:31 PM CST
They are in a bunch. They all have 3 leaves on each stem. Not sure what it is otherwise. My son got into it before it was yanked out. Please help if possible! Thanks in advance everyone!
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Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Jul 1, 2017 2:46 PM CST
If you were on my side of the country, I would say you are holding a sprig of poison oak.
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Rachelfaith05
Jul 1, 2017 3:05 PM CST
Only thing is, it isn't really scalloped like I thought poison oak is. The tip is also at a point. I'm just nervous because I don't want my child exposed to it.
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Calif_Sue
Jul 1, 2017 3:08 PM CST

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TECNU your hands! Blinking Crying

Daisy, do you know if the stems get that reddish flush?

Some possibilities
Poison Ivy (Toxicodendron radicans)
Eastern Poison Oak (Toxicodendron pubescens)
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Rachelfaith05
Jul 1, 2017 3:17 PM CST
I'm at my moms house and she just pulled it out and said "I've been trying to get rid of this thing" and went about her way. Afterward, I looked at it and thought it looked suspicious. Apparently she has been pulling at it for a while and finally got it out. I will say, it was growing in the crack of cement.
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Bonehead
Jul 1, 2017 3:28 PM CST
Ha ha, I spent a few minutes trying to fit TECNU into some computer jargon, gave up and did a search on it, only to find it is some product that counters the active ingredient in poison oak etc. I don't have any of those 'leaves of threes' so am not at all familiar with them or how they affect folks. I wonder if it might work on other plants that irritate the skin?
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Rachelfaith05
Jul 1, 2017 3:37 PM CST
I don't even know what to do about my son now. I'm not sure if he actually touched it, but it was right next to his baby pool and my mom pulled it (without washing her hands) not thinking it was anything bad, she was filling buckets of hot water and dumping it in. Then she was playing with him and his toys in the pool. Now I'm officially freaked out. He's 2 and puts everything in his mouth so that especially freaks me out.
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DaisyI
Jul 1, 2017 3:53 PM CST
When we get into the poison oak, we take a cold shower and use lots of soap. The plant has an oil that causes the rash so hot water spreads it, cold water washes it off. If you are allergic to it, anything that touched the poison oak has the oil on it: clothing, skin, shoes... needs to be washed in soap and cold water.

That said, I have never seen Eastern Poison Oak but that stuff in your hand is a dead ringer for Western Poison Oak. But according to the range maps, Poison Oak doesn't occur in Ohio.
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sooby
Jul 1, 2017 3:54 PM CST
Could it be fragrant sumac? The terminal leaflet petiole is kind of short for poison ivy and the leaves are small unless they are new tip growth. I'm not sure the relative size of fragrant sumac leaves - would have to look that up.



Can we get a picture of the whole plant where it is growing?

Edited to add a link I just found with comparison pics, poison oak should have a long terminal petiole as well (OK it's petiolule not petiole for a leaflet stalk according to this article):

https://anps.org/2014/06/10/kn...
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Rachelfaith05
Jul 1, 2017 4:17 PM CST
It was already taken out of the ground but it was growing in a crack in the cement behind her house. Here are more pics I just took. As you can see it's already starting to wilt since it's been pulled and is now sitting in the sun. I'm super nervous now being that we've been inside since this happened and my mom refuses to believe it's anything to worry about "since she washed her hands when I asked her to". How long would it take to see a rash appear? My main concern is the possibility that he may have gotten the oil in his mouth (I always think worse case scenario) 🙁
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Name: stone
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stone
Jul 1, 2017 4:35 PM CST
Sooby has a point about fragrant sumac...

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Fragrant sumac

Poison oak is more rounded, fragrant sumac is more chiseled, think hand saw...

Of course, it doesn't rule out poison ivy.
I have some jagged edges on some poison ivy here, climbing up a tree.


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ctcarol
Jul 1, 2017 4:36 PM CST
I'm only guessing but I think you would see results by now IF it is Poison oak/ivy, and IF he has a reaction to it...some people aren't allergic to it at all. Just keep an eye on him.
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plantladylin
Jul 1, 2017 4:48 PM CST
Blinking Leaves and growth habit of Poison Ivy can be variable and my first thought was that it sure looks like Poison Ivy (Toxicodendron radicans) Check out some of the images on this page: http://www.naturetoot.com/Pois...

I didn't think about Fragrant Sumac (Rhus aromatica) which is a good possibility and is also found in Ohio. Hopefully that is the plant in question!

How is your son doing? Regarding Poison Ivy; I googled and copied the sentence below from the full article on this page: http://healthcenter.indiana.ed...

~ The plant oil can begin to penetrate the skin within 5-10 minutes of contact. Poison ivy rash can appear in as little as 4 hours or as long as 2-3 weeks after exposure. Generally, the first blisters appear within 1-14 days. Red, swollen, itchy skin with a rash that can be widespread depending on contact areas. ~

That being said, I would watch him for any signs of itching, blistering, etc. and let his pediatrician know that he possibly had contact with poison ivy.
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Name: stone
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stone
Jul 1, 2017 4:52 PM CST
plantladylin said: I would watch him for any signs of itching, blistering, etc. and let his pediatrician know that he possibly had contact with poison ivy.

Or/and
Quickly give soapy bath with cold water.
Poison ivy usually washes off easily.
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Rachelfaith05
Jul 1, 2017 7:03 PM CST
Thanks everyone!! I went crazy cleaning everyone and everything to hopefully prevent this from sticking around (if that's in fact what it is!) i didn't see anything on my son so hopefully we dodged a bullet with this! Thanks for all of your comments and tips!
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Calif_Sue
Jul 1, 2017 7:17 PM CST

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If your Mom hasn't broken out by now, and it sounds like she was the first to touch it, it's probably not poison oak or ivy.
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Rachelfaith05
Jul 1, 2017 8:23 PM CST
Thanks! Yes she hasn't yet so I think all is well!:)
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Jul 1, 2017 8:26 PM CST
I don't think you are home free until tomorrow. It takes me 12 to 24 hours to react if I'm going to.
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Frillylily
Jul 1, 2017 8:31 PM CST
I start itching w/in a couple hours of getting it on me. It should be noted that these types of plants should NEVER be burned because the oil can drift in smoke and anyone who breathes it can get VERY ill. And that if you do get a rash you can go to the dr and they give you some wonderful magic medicine that makes it go away. I 'toughed' it out once for the longest time and it was MISERABLE and then someone said hey you can go to the dr for that! And I was like? who knew!? Shrug! I just thought you had to wait it out. Had it all over me Sad
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Rachelfaith05
Jul 2, 2017 12:35 PM CST
Update: still no rash on anyone! Hopefully we are in the clear! Now the thing is when it was pulled it was just thrown in the yard. I went to try to find it and I have no idea where it is. Should I be concerned with it respeouting somewhere else or is the oil still an issue after it's dead and wilting away?

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