Roses forum: Black Magic

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Name: Molly McKinley
Florida Tundra
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MollyMc
Jul 1, 2017 2:37 PM CST
Has anyone had experience with these? I bought 2 last fall and planted them in 2 different places, far from one another. They have both died.

When I bought them one was in bloom and I loved that black red color. I have a sandy base ground, one area amended for 11 years, the other area, not so. Both have all the sun they need. I figured, 2 different places, 50% chance of success.

Any thoughts on their demise?
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Jul 1, 2017 6:28 PM CST
I routinely manage to kill hybrid teas, so I am definitely no help.
Porkpal
Name: Lilli
Copenhagen, Denmark, EU
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IrisLilli
Jul 2, 2017 4:57 AM CST
According to the roses database, Black Magic is a florist rose and they are often 'temperamental' when grown in the garden. But I see why you like it!

You don't know if it will grow until you try!
Name: Molly McKinley
Florida Tundra
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MollyMc
Jul 2, 2017 11:38 AM CST
Thank you Lilli, the odds are not in my favor. I'll have to not get another.
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Roses Irises Lilies
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Steve812
Jul 27, 2017 6:06 PM CST
Not an easy thing to do when the hope is of getting a rose like the one photo!
When you dance with nature, try not to step on her toes.
Name: Jim Washington
Midland City, Al
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jwash
Oct 9, 2017 6:59 AM CST
Hi Molly: Where did you buy the rose Black Magic??I have 5 bushes, 3 are on Dr Huey rootstock and I grafted 2 on Fortuniana rootstock. All 5 are doing great.However the Dr H RS ones are 3 years old while the Fort RS ones I grafted are only 1 year old, and as to be expected the Fort RS outdoes the Dr H by a mile. The 2, I grafted are, 2 foot taller and produce loads of long stemmed show roses.If you buy another Black Magic I suggest you get it grafted on Fortuniana. At the present time there is only 1 source
Jim aka jwash
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Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Roses Irises Lilies
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Steve812
Oct 10, 2017 9:56 AM CST
Jim, where did you get your Black Magic on fortuniana rootstock?
When you dance with nature, try not to step on her toes.
Name: Molly McKinley
Florida Tundra
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MollyMc
Oct 16, 2017 2:18 PM CST
most of the roses we get here in Florida are grafted onto Fortuniana rootstock, although the two that died, I am not sure. It's been a while since they perished. They may have been own root cuttings by the lady I bought them from, but I can't be sure now.
Sydney, Australia (Zone 10b)
Protoavis
Oct 17, 2017 10:27 PM CST
As mentioned above, it's a florist rose, many of those will only do well in green house conditions and anything less than ideal conditions will see them not perform.

If you're after something similar but more likely to work in a garden look for Taboo (aka Barkarole). It's not perfect (none of the dark red HT's are trouble free) but it's probably the easiest of the dark red/black and fragrant HT's.
Anyone with oryzalin (aka Surflan, Embargo), am looking for a small amount rather than 5litres from manufacturer (min size in Australia....)

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