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Jul 1, 2017 6:38 PM CST
Name: Becky
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Question ....

Does Siloam Peony Display produce white seeds?
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Jul 1, 2017 7:03 PM CST
Name: Elena
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Not that I've seen. I think Sooby said all seeds start out white then turn dark.
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Jul 1, 2017 7:14 PM CST
(Zone 6a)
Siloam Peony Display does in fact produce white seeds. I've never gotten black seeds from it. The white seeds are viable, I don't know what causes this, it's the only cultivar, I've had do this. Shrug!

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Jul 1, 2017 7:45 PM CST
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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To Elena's point, all seeds do seem to start out white. I have had a handful, atleast, of pods that either cracked open early or were bitten into by bunnies... The seeds are always white to start. (I have, in a couple of cases, successfully protected them long enough for them to turn brown/viable.)
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Jul 1, 2017 8:18 PM CST
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SPD's seeds are white when fully ripe, they will not turn black. I've bred SPD 3 years, with the same results, no matter the pollen parent. It's a oddity.
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Jul 1, 2017 8:52 PM CST
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Karen - Thank you for your reply and confirmation.

The seeds came from a ripe pod. Seeds are hard and look very similar to other Daylily seeds except for the white color. I only got 4 seeds, but hopefully at least one will produce something lovely. I really like the Siloam doubles, but these white seeds are a first for me. I had no idea, though I do remember someone on the forum mentioning white seeds in a thread somewhere a year or so ago.

Thanks to everyone for your reply to my question. Thank You!
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Jul 1, 2017 9:48 PM CST
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Your Welcome! The most seeds I've got from SPD, was when pollinated by Bear Claws, and the worst was with Lilting Belle. I should see the SPD x BC bloom soon, I can share pictures when they start.
Good Luck, with your seeds. I've had very good germination with the white seeds, and the seedlings have all been strong growers.
I've tried crossing other Siloam daylilies, to see if any others produce white seeds. I've tried 6 other Siloam cultivars, and none of them produced white seeds. I'd love to know if any other cultivars produce white seeds. I like oddities, maybe because I'm one myself. Hilarious!

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Jul 1, 2017 9:59 PM CST
Name: Becky
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Karen - Oh yes! Please do share photos of any seedling blooms you get. I would love to see them.

I, too, am curious to know if any other cultivars have white seeds. Confused
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Jul 2, 2017 4:03 AM CST
Name: Sue
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beckygardener said:

I, too, am curious to know if any other cultivars have white seeds. Confused


I don't grow it but 'Moonlight Orchid' is also said to produce white seeds.
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Jul 2, 2017 7:55 AM CST
Name: Valerie
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I got white seeds from Sparkling Pink x Big Smile, but I don't think I kept them because I didn't think they were viable Sad
Edited to add:
I also did a cross with Peggy Jeffcoat x Siloam Peony Display this past summer, and got five seeds, all black, and 4 germinated and the seedlings have been planted out in my seedling beds.
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Jul 2, 2017 8:40 AM CST
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Thanks for listing others that produce white seeds.

Valerie, It looks like SPD wasn't your pod parent, that's why you got black seeds. It only produces white seeds, when SPD is the pod parent. I've crossed Siloam Double Classic x SPD and the seeds were black.
I'd love to see your Peggy Jeffcoat x SPD seedlings when they bloom. I hope you get some beautiful seedlings from that cross. Thumbs up
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Jul 9, 2017 8:52 AM CST
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I've had 3 Siloam Peony Display x Bear Claws bloom so far, and all of them look like the pod parent.
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I have 2 more that should open tomorrow, hopefully they'll look different. Crossing Fingers!

Has anyone ever had so many seedlings look identical to a parent?
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Jul 23, 2017 10:36 AM CST
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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@ Taylordaylily , you might want to post a comment about that in the pod parent's profile in the database...it might be helpful to others when hybridizing. In genetics, sometimes some genetics are just more dominant, and if this is consistently repeated, it might help people understand the genetics of that parent better.
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Jul 23, 2017 10:55 AM CST
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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I agree

This is one that needs to be featured during the next round of the Daylily of the Day featured cultivar.
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Jul 23, 2017 10:58 AM CST
Name: Nikki
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taylordaylily said:I've had 3 Siloam Peony Display x Bear Claws bloom so far, and all of them look like the pod parent.
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I have 2 more that should open tomorrow, hopefully they'll look different. Crossing Fingers!

Has anyone ever had so many seedlings look identical to a parent?


That is BEAUTIFUL! Lovey dubby Lovey dubby Lovey dubby
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Jul 23, 2017 11:03 AM CST
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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@Taylordaylily , my tag above was broken by a space, so I thought I would tag you again to make sure you see it. Smiling Please read above post(s).
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Jul 23, 2017 11:14 AM CST
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Thank You for reminding me, I meant to add comments, then simply forgot.

Thank You! For the compliment! Wish I could ship you a couple, all of the seedlings look like SPD.
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