Orchids forum: Catasetums

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Name: Bill
Cape Coral FL (Zone 10a)
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Adeniums Region: Florida Region: Gulf Coast
BigBill
Jul 2, 2017 2:32 PM CST






Since I have to deal with warm weather year round, I decided to grow Catasetums about three years ago. I have a collection of both species and hybrids that now number over 100.
Cattleyas were my first love but the constant warmth presents problems. This hybrid of Catasetum pileatum and Ctsm. John C. Burchette is one of my favorites so far. Flowers are spectacular, some six inches across and bloom frequently. The flowers are not long lasting, perhaps ten days to two weeks however I have had one hybrid bloom nine times one summer! Nine spikes meant flowers were fading, some were in prime condition while some were developing on new inflorescences.
Cultural info will follow soon if everyone is interested in trying a few.
Enjoy!
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 6b
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Ursula
Jul 2, 2017 5:45 PM CST

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Ohh, this is interesting!

After striking out years ago with this group, I tried my hand again with a couple of plants. One of them is the Monnierara Millenium Magic 'Witchcraft', which is right now putting on new growth outside. The other is a much smaller plant, the name escapes me right now.
Name: Bill
Cape Coral FL (Zone 10a)
Region: United States of America Birds Cat Lover Orchids Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Butterflies
Adeniums Region: Florida Region: Gulf Coast
BigBill
Jul 2, 2017 6:16 PM CST
That is one of those nearly black hybrids. Here is a picture of one of mine Ursula.
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 6b
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Ursula
Jul 2, 2017 6:49 PM CST

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Looks dramatic! Smiling
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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DaisyI
Jul 2, 2017 8:32 PM CST
Wow! Those are incredible. I don't think anyone around here has any.
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and proclaiming...."WOW What a Ride!!" -Mark Frost
Name: Alice
Saint Helena Island, SC (Zone 9a)
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ardesia
Jul 3, 2017 5:28 AM CST
I agree WOW!

Minds are like parachutes; they work better when they are open.
Name: Bill
Cape Coral FL (Zone 10a)
Region: United States of America Birds Cat Lover Orchids Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Butterflies
Adeniums Region: Florida Region: Gulf Coast
BigBill
Jul 3, 2017 5:46 AM CST

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Here are three more examples of why I love these orchids. The WOW factor is just incredible.
Two vendors that you can check out are Clown Alley Orchids in Texas and Sunset Valley Orchids in California. Fred Clarke at SVO is the best hybridized and grower around and his seedlings are sold through numerous other vendors. Check them out!
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Name: Ted
Brea, CA (Zone 10b)
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Ted5310
Jul 3, 2017 4:40 PM CST
Outstanding I tip my hat to you.
I have a number of Fred Clarke hybrids. This past winter is when I really started to pay attention to the cycle for them. Fred sent me a number of articles and there was one in Orchid Digest. So far so good. Lots of root and leaf growth. Now just waiting for the flowers. How often do you water them, Bill.
Name: Bill
Cape Coral FL (Zone 10a)
Region: United States of America Birds Cat Lover Orchids Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Butterflies
Adeniums Region: Florida Region: Gulf Coast
BigBill
Jul 3, 2017 8:16 PM CST
Well in south Florida, mine never experience dormancy. From November through March once a week, maybe ten days. Then as temperatures clinb to 85, then low90's, I water roughly every five days. It always comes back to pots and media but I never let them get too dry.
Now that it is the rainy season and I have had some rain for 10 of 15 days, Mother Nature handles that chore.
I use clay pots exclusively and use aliflor/charcoal/sponge rock for the lower one third. Sphagnum for the middle one third and the top one third is the aliflor mix.
I haven't used bark for anything since moving here 8 years ago. It decomposes in 6 months!!!
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 6b
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Ursula
Jul 3, 2017 8:28 PM CST

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Bill, thanks for that info!
After blooming one is told not to water at all until the roots on the new growth measure ca 6 inches. I always thought that restriction was a bit harsh! I imagine that there is considerable dew in their natural environment, so I directed my sprayer over my two plants as I would water some dormant succulents to duplicate that dew. Right now outside here in Nj, they are getting watered daily. So far they are doing fine.
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
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ctcarol
Jul 3, 2017 8:51 PM CST
The lack of humidity is what has stopped me from trying them. SVO probably hasn't any better humidity than we do here, but they do have those green houses that can be controlled.
Name: Bill
Cape Coral FL (Zone 10a)
Region: United States of America Birds Cat Lover Orchids Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Butterflies
Adeniums Region: Florida Region: Gulf Coast
BigBill
Jul 4, 2017 2:53 AM CST
Well honestly I got too much water but I can't imagine humidity being an over riding factor. It is all about the media and the water.
For the first three years I grew them in straight sphagnum moss . I thought that they did great. But then I started to rot some, especially Cycnoches species and primary hybrids. So this is why I am trying this layered media. I hoped to dry them out more quickly from June to September, our rainy season. I get 40+/- rainfall for 4 months!! Incredible. The dry months I water often enough so they do not go bone dry.
Example of difference: Catasetum tenebrosa flowers for me two or three times with a dozen to fifteen flowers. This year, twice so far with 21 and 23 flowers on a taller and stronger spike.
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Name: Bill
Cape Coral FL (Zone 10a)
Region: United States of America Birds Cat Lover Orchids Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Butterflies
Adeniums Region: Florida Region: Gulf Coast
BigBill
Jul 4, 2017 2:55 AM CST
Now that photo is the shorter, more clustered spike. Imagine taller with more flowers and better arrangement! I prefer the taller one. It has to be the more even watering and more water. Nothing does really well when saturated in sphagnum. It is too much!!
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 6b
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Ursula
Jul 4, 2017 6:59 AM CST

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Flowering a couple of times a year - I would be a happy camper!!
Name: Bill
Cape Coral FL (Zone 10a)
Region: United States of America Birds Cat Lover Orchids Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Butterflies
Adeniums Region: Florida Region: Gulf Coast
BigBill
Jul 4, 2017 7:23 AM CST
I should have mentioned that they are heavy feeders. I sprinkle about a quarter of a tsp. Of Dynamite slow release fertilizer per 5" pot. This lasts six months or so, a little longer in cooler climates.
I use Dynamite 10-10-17 in a white bottle/blue lid!
Try that for more flowers more often!
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Name: Alice
Saint Helena Island, SC (Zone 9a)
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ardesia
Jul 4, 2017 8:21 AM CST
I like Dynamite also but it is often hard to find outside of Florida. I have bought it on Amazon and also purchased it directly from the company.
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Name: Bill
Cape Coral FL (Zone 10a)
Region: United States of America Birds Cat Lover Orchids Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Butterflies
Adeniums Region: Florida Region: Gulf Coast
BigBill
Jul 4, 2017 9:52 AM CST
Just google Dynamite plant food. I got a good deal, three for 21 dollars including shipping.
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Name: Bill
Cape Coral FL (Zone 10a)
Region: United States of America Birds Cat Lover Orchids Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Butterflies
Adeniums Region: Florida Region: Gulf Coast
BigBill
Jul 9, 2017 6:37 AM CST

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This series of photos will hopefully show everyone how I am growing orchids in SW Florida. The old saying is "a picture is worth a thousand words!", well there ought to be a great deal said here. Peruse, enjoy everyone. The last photo is a shot of the Catasetum seedlings that are growing quite nicely.
Other photos show various pots and mounts plus vertical areas made from Home Depot closet shelving hanging from the sides of my lanai.
"Our children are messages we send to a time we won't see."
Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 6b
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Greenhouse Keeper of Koi Cactus and Succulents Forum moderator I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Ponds
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Ursula
Jul 9, 2017 6:50 AM CST

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Oh my!! May I move in? Smiling
Bill, your plants look wonderful, healthy!! Great Catasetums and everything else.
Name: Bill
Cape Coral FL (Zone 10a)
Region: United States of America Birds Cat Lover Orchids Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Butterflies
Adeniums Region: Florida Region: Gulf Coast
BigBill
Jul 9, 2017 6:58 AM CST
Thanks a bunch.
Anytime you are in the area, let me know. I have a spare bedroom for family and friends.
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