Daylilies forum: Foreign "stalk" in my daylily?

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Name: Archivesgirl
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Archivesgirl
Jul 3, 2017 5:52 AM CST
Good morning! This is my first post on this forum and I thought someone might be able to tell me what is going on with my old daylily (it's over 15 years old). Anyway, it has always grown a shoot in the middle of it that looks like a corn stalk, for lack of a better description. I always cut it out after it blooms but none of my other daylilies have done this. It is bizarre. I always comes back. Has anyone seen this or know what it is? Thanks for any suggestions or help. Gayle
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And the stalk is the larger one just right of center in this photo:



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Thank You!
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jul 3, 2017 7:01 AM CST
Very interesting, but I have no idea what that might be. But you might want to post it over in the Plant Id forum, if you don't get a quick answer here. Maybe someone will recognize the plant.
Name: Julie
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floota
Jul 3, 2017 7:08 AM CST
I believe it is an obnoxious weed and would pull it ASAP!!
Name: Sue
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sooby
Jul 3, 2017 7:32 AM CST
What kind of bloom does it have? I agree with Larry, post it on the Plant ID forum if you haven't already. It's not part of the daylily, the leaf structure is wrong.
Name: Archivesgirl
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Archivesgirl
Jul 3, 2017 9:06 AM CST
floota said:I believe it is an obnoxious weed and would pull it ASAP!!


Julie, hi. I have pulled it every year and the plant is old. It keeps coming back and that counts moving across the state with it. I'm amazed that I pull it and think it's gone but it's almost like it's in the plant's DNA. Thanks for the suggestion. Gayle
Name: Archivesgirl
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Archivesgirl
Jul 3, 2017 9:09 AM CST
Seedfork said:Very interesting, but I have no idea what that might be. But you might want to post it over in the Plant Id forum, if you don't get a quick answer here. Maybe someone will recognize the plant.


Larry and Sue, thanks for the suggestion. I thought about that also so I'll post it there. I've pulled it every year and think that it's gone but it crops up with the plant every year. Hum, even moving across the state with it didn't get rid of it. Smiling Sighing!

Thank You! Gayle

Name: Sue
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sooby
Jul 3, 2017 9:24 AM CST
Is it actually in a daylily? The pictures may be misleading but the leaves around it look more like an iris. Have you tried dividing the plant it is in and separating it out?
Name: Rj
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crawgarden
Jul 3, 2017 9:26 AM CST
Just let it grow and see if it blooms.
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Name: Donald
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needrain
Jul 3, 2017 9:29 AM CST
You might check out Johnson Grass. It would look similar and it would have the sort of root structure that would keep it coming back over and over and year to year. If that is what it is, though, you are lucky it hasn't escaped further away than a single daylily clump. It would have been easy to move from location to location without realizing it.

I'd expect that there are quite a few gardeners on NGA that have experience with it and can help. Good luck!
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Name: Donald
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needrain
Jul 3, 2017 9:33 AM CST
crawgarden said:Just let it grow and see if it blooms.


Just a word of caution. If it should prove to be Johnson Grass, the danger is letting it grow for any length of time because of the way it spreads underground. It will take advantage of reasonably good growing conditions and waiting to see it bloom is an advantage for the plant. If it can be identified prior to seeing it head out, it would be easier. It can be a real nuisance when it's growing where it isn't wanted.
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Frillylily
Jul 3, 2017 9:35 AM CST
looks like corn to me, do you feed birds?
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Seedfork
Jul 3, 2017 9:36 AM CST
I thinking it must not be Johnsongrass because it has been doing this for years and has not spread, but has come up in the same daylily year after year.
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Frillylily
Jul 3, 2017 9:40 AM CST
oh. Confused
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dirtdorphins
Jul 3, 2017 9:41 AM CST
sorghum ??

let us know what you find out--I'm curious too, because I have a couple daylilies with similar invaders year after year.
I've not let them grow to the extent to see what they really are, but when trying to extract them it seems they are some kinda monster grass or grain type thing whose roots are intimately embedded and apparently perennial
one of these years I'm gonna have to dig 'em up and mangle the daylilies enough to tease them out...
Name: Donald
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needrain
Jul 3, 2017 9:44 AM CST
I agree with that sentiment @Seedfork but anything else I can think of in the sorghum/corn family type plants would be annuals and not return in the same spot or after they were pulled out. There may be another plant, but knowing the trouble Johnson Grass can give a person, I'm not trusting her plant very much. It's been coming back for 15 years? It's not coming from birdseed if it's doing that. Green Grin!
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Name: Arlene
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pirl
Jul 3, 2017 9:44 AM CST
Would you consider using a strong knife to cut out part of the daylily, including the oddity, so you can separate it further and also see the root structure of the offender? You can replant the daylily portion elsewhere (not in the same "problem" spot).
Name: Sharon Rose
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Altheabyanothername
Jul 3, 2017 3:42 PM CST
Do you have crinums in your areas where this daylily has been? Although it is big, it looks like a younger crinum which really would not care if the green gets cut and would be very difficult to pull out.
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Name: Ken
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CaliFlowers
Jul 3, 2017 4:25 PM CST
The stem/leaf structure strongly suggests a grass. What's puzzling is that this thing hasn't spread in 15 years. It resembles millet, (Pennisetum), some of which are fairly large. In order to get a better ID, let it flower.
Name: Sue
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sooby
Jul 3, 2017 4:36 PM CST
I was thinking millet from the flower description too Ken, but it would have to perennial and hardy and I didn't find one like that that had flowers as described, like a green corn cob.
Name: Ken
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Jul 3, 2017 5:08 PM CST
sooby said:I was thinking millet from the flower description too Ken, but it would have to perennial and hardy and I didn't find one like that that had flowers as described, like a green corn cob.


I didn't see a flower description, but you're right, a lot of things just aren't adding up.

Last year I spread alfalfa pellets as mulch, and ended up with some volunteer grasses. I grew a couple of them in containers, and they turned out to be a form of millet commonly used as forage.

They really looked a lot like this plant, but they wouldn't be persistent in a cold climate.

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