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CaMidltn68
Jul 3, 2017 10:50 PM CST
I was trying to get rid of some very persistent weeds. Read the label multiple times and thought I could use it since it did not state that it would kill my flowers...But weed be gone has just about killed everything in my flowerbed

According to them, desirables, means the plants that you want to keep. Told the lady I was dumb about stuff like this and that since I wasn't able to get through to them due to it being after hours, I used it on my flowerbed, because it gave a list of things that it would kill, and the roses and hostas, and my hydrangeas were not on that list. I spent $150.00 on that flower bed trying to get it set right and that when the Spring started until Winter, it would have an endless show of multiple colors throughout the blooming season.

My question is this, how do I bring my rose bushes, hosta, and hydrangeas back from almost extinction?

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Frillylily
Jul 3, 2017 11:19 PM CST
If they have been hit w that, the will die. There may be some that only were mildly affected by overspray?, then just wait it out and see what happens. Some weed killers have an extended time in the soil, they do not kill just what you spray, they keep weeds out for a season. Do you know what kind you have? Just because you desire a plant, doesn't mean it won't die when sprayed. Just pull the weeds, put down lots of mulch and wait until your plants mature enough to choke out the weeds on their own. Weed killers are bad news around desirable plantings, it is easy to get it on them.
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Jul 4, 2017 2:02 AM CST

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I'm sorry to hear about your garden bed. If you sprayed it with Weed-B-Gon, then I'm not sure there's much that can be done. From what I can find about it, roses are apparently quite susceptible to it. Did you spray directly on the roses, or just the weeds? There also seem to be a few different varieties of this product - which one did you use?

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CaMidltn68
Jul 6, 2017 11:45 PM CST
I sprayed just the weeds, but half of my rose bushes are yellow and the leaves are curling up and dried on some.

The bottle's title was just "Weed Be Gone". Nothing else.

Would this bother my bulbs that are in the ground?
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Jul 7, 2017 12:01 AM CST

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Are the roses that are yellowing directly next to the sprayed weeds? Is the yellowing spread throughout the plant, or is it just on the side closest to the weeds?

The roses could have been impacted two different ways - overspray (i.e. some of the spray settled on the plant, which would most likely cause one side of the plant to be more affected than the other) or via the root system (if the herbicide has washed into the soil and been absorbed by the plant, which is more likely to affect the entire plant).

It certainly could affect the bulbs you have, depending on how much has soaked into the ground where the bulbs are and how much they can absorb. Are they dormant at the moment?
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kniphofia
Jul 7, 2017 12:29 AM CST
Sorry but what was it about spraying poison on your plants that surprised you when some of them didn't survive? People are far too gung ho about getting rid of "weeds" and "pests".
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sooby
Jul 7, 2017 5:34 AM CST
Can anyone find the ingredients in Weed B Gone or which different products carry that name? I could only find lawn herbicides with the name and every time In try to Google Weed B Gone it gives me Scotts Canadian web site (where the product has different ingredients because of the Ontario cosmetic pesticide ban). When I ask it for the USA site it just sends me to the Scotts general site. There I only see Weed B Gone for lawns.

It may affect bulbs depending on the ingredients and whether they had leaves above the ground or had gone dormant. It depends if the ingredients included a soil active herbicide. They don't all.
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KarenHolt
Jul 7, 2017 7:25 AM CST
kniphofia said:Sorry but what was it about spraying poison on your plants that surprised you when some of them didn't survive? People are far too gung ho about getting rid of "weeds" and "pests".


I agree. I know weeding is a chore, but the easiest way is to do it by hand when the soil is moist. That's when I get those tough ones the easiest. I get truly aggravated with my husband when he gets weed killer out. I have gone so far as to hide it from him. He has taken entire beds out. But he is learning.
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CaMidltn68
Jul 7, 2017 1:11 PM CST
First off, I would like to say that being disabled is not very fun. I have not been able to get on my knees and pull weeds for 2 years now. If I bend down I fall over due to an equilibrium problem. So, I have no choice but to use weed killer. Unless some of you can come pull them for me. I planted the flowers way before I started having problems with falling over and not being able to get on my knees. I have tried knee boards and they do not work for me. Not sure as to how well a weed grabber is, but my mother said she found one some where.

Second off, the leaves of the roses that have turned yellow are directly behind where the weed be gone was sprayed. There was no wind that day, and I did not put the complete bottle on the flower bed. The majority of it went on the yard.

Thank you all for your input, it has helped a lot.

Have a nice weekend.
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Frillylily
Jul 7, 2017 1:15 PM CST
I hold up a piece of cardboard when I spray so it doesn't drift onto the plants I want to keep.
That helps alot.
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Tisha
Jul 7, 2017 1:54 PM CST
@KarenHolt "beds ?"
"hiding it?"
Sounds like you`re helping him with the learning curve Whistling Thumbs up
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So sorry about the misunderstanding about the `weedkiller`.
Our planet is made of chemicals.
All plants are weeds.
All plants are flowers.
It depends on whether or not YOU want it.
The members here have a lot of good advice on natural/organic chemical or synthetic/non-organic chemical weed control as well as other control methods.
Crossing Fingers! for your roses. If your bulbs have bloomed and the leaves have died back as they normally would there is a good chance they`ll be ok. Hope springs eternal Thumbs up













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Tisha
Jul 7, 2017 2:07 PM CST
Balance issues.
Maybe you can try the newspaper method of helping control weeds.
No wind on the day you sprayed. Spray`s mist will still travel. Cover your flowers with pots or shield them as @Frillylily suggested. If you can`t hold the cardboard, lay it on the plt. for protection Smiling
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Frillylily
Jul 7, 2017 2:18 PM CST
I have found that even on very still days, the mist well over spray onto other plants Sad Iris are very touchy w this I have found out. I have only ever used round up though, not the other kinds.
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Jul 7, 2017 2:26 PM CST
CaMidltn68 said:First off, I would like to say that being disabled is not very fun. I have not been able to get on my knees and pull weeds for 2 years now. If I bend down I fall over due to an equilibrium problem. So, I have no choice but to use weed killer. Unless some of you can come pull them for me. I planted the flowers way before I started having problems with falling over and not being able to get on my knees. I have tried knee boards and they do not work for me. Not sure as to how well a weed grabber is, but my mother said she found one some where.

Second off, the leaves of the roses that have turned yellow are directly behind where the weed be gone was sprayed. There was no wind that day, and I did not put the complete bottle on the flower bed. The majority of it went on the yard.

Thank you all for your input, it has helped a lot.

Have a nice weekend.

Did you you use the hose kind or just a pump spray bottle.
When you are close to flowers or any plant you want to live it is best to use the pump-spray bottle, that said, I will sometimes take the hose type and either reduce pressure with bottle valve or kink the hose so I only get a near dribbling spray maybe two or three inches wide that is heavy enough that there is no real mist.
I do this when Creeping Charlie or Chickweed is so thick that pulling is a waste of hours as it will be back and the roots close to the vegetation are still there.
Get a little stool, easily portable to sit on and use can either sit on it or grab it so you would not fall.
It would make you more stable like three-legged tri-pod with it being your third leg or knee.

Many flowers have biology similar to the weeds Weed b Gone kills so I would not use that one again in the flower bed.
For your rose, water it heavily, wash the crap out of the soil.
My brother had lawn company come a spray our south lawn about a decade ago, while it did not kill anything, for most of the past decade the roses, spirea and for one year peonies were in tough shape.
Do not know what product they used but we did not do it again.
I watered and fertilized and this year for the first time in a long time that garden looks almost as good as it did ten years ago, although, the roses are now becoming a bit of a weed as are the peonies.

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CaMidltn68
Jul 7, 2017 8:08 PM CST
I used the kind that attaches to the water hose. The rose bush has dark green leaves and stems that is against the house, but the front of the bush was wilting and has dried up and turned brown. The hosta has a few leaves that are yellow, my mom's hydrangea has lost all the leaves. It was a blue one. There is a pink one that will bloom next year due to having recently putting it into the ground. Just the edges of the leaves are curling and has dried. My bulbs (tulips, hyacinths, day lilies, daffodils, grape hyacinths and tiger lilies) are all done for now. They should be in dormancy.
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Jul 7, 2017 9:54 PM CST

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Sounds like it was overspray that hit the rose bush. Remove the affected part of the plant and hopefully it will recover. The hosta may also be okay - again, remove the affected part of the plant). The hydrangea sounds like it was badly affected - I don't hold much hope for it.

The bulbs will hopefully be okay, given they are dormant.
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sooby
Jul 8, 2017 12:18 AM CST
CaMidltn68 said:I used the kind that attaches to the water hose. .


So was that this one, Weed b Gon for lawns?

https://www.ortho.com/smg/gopr...

If so, the active ingredient is triclopyr.
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Jul 8, 2017 7:53 AM CST
Do you have weeds now or did the weed killer get `em? How long will the triclopyr keep the weeds gone? Spraying sounds easier than newspaper covered with 2" of mulch. Much easier. How often do you need to spray, two weeks? Please tell me more about the success of this method. How many plants got damaged ? Might be worth the loss to not have to mess with mulch.
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CaMidltn68
Jul 8, 2017 11:35 PM CST
It was by Ortho, but it was for Southern lawns.

I have only sprayed that one time and the weeds are gone. I have several plants above ground that has gotten hurt. But my bulbs are underground and I have no way of knowing until Spring if they survived or not.

I have 2 Chrysanthemums (a bronze button mum, and a purple daisy mum) that lost their blooms and curled their leaves, mother's rose bush has half gone, and half that is against the house is still green and good looking, lost my lavender (due to it being in a pot still, just got it too), mother's hydrangea has lost all the blooms and the leaves are yellow with brown and black spots, my daughter's rose bush is like mother's, mother's hosta is full still but has just a few leaves that has yellow spots on them, but lost the blooms before they could open, my hydrangea is dark green but only has curling around the edges of the leaves, and the wild violets are untouched. I sprayed them really good because of the dandelions being in the yard with them. We also have this sticker weed that seems to be everywhere in our yard. This was the main reason why we got the weed be gone to begin with.
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sooby
Jul 9, 2017 4:00 AM CST
It seems the Weed b Gon Max for southern lawns has been discontinued or at least is currently not available so it took me a while to find the label but I did finally find it here, assuming the formulation had not changed:

http://www.kellysolutions.com/...

If this is what you used then I'm pessimistic about your garden plants' survival, especially those that got a direct hit, because it is one of the "triple" herbicides plus another herbicide that I'm not familiar with. On this label the active ingredients are 2,4-D, mecoprop, dicamba and carfentrazone.

As it says on the label "Non-Target Plants: Do not apply this product to carpetgrass, dichondra, food crops (gardens, fruits and vegetables) forage crops, or ornamental plants including flowers, trees, shrubs, hedges, woody ornamentals, groundcovers established in landscape plantings and other nontarget plants."

I don't think there's much you can do at this point other than wait, it may take some time before you know what may recover and what will not. You could call Scotts/Ortho's toll free number and see if they can suggest anything.

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