Lilies forum: Tiger Babies?

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Name: Patrick
Midland, Michigan (Zone 6a)
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auratum
Jul 4, 2017 7:31 AM CST
So I have two different lilies growing under the name Tiger Babies. The first came from Judith at TLG. The second I believe came as a gift and I was told it was a different one of the clones of Tiger Babies that had been given the name Zeus? Does this make sense to anyone. One is more orange and the other more pink. I have always thought the orange one was the "normal" TB and had the pinker on mislabeled as something else for quite awhile. Someone also suggested to me that the pinker one may be Katinka but not sure that is right. Looking at them on my computer screen they didn't look that different so I snapped off a bloom of each to take a side by side for better comparison. I know that Tiger Babies is a strain (several clones) but not sure if the lighter one is part of the strain or something different?

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Name: Tracey
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magnolialover
Jul 4, 2017 8:11 AM CST

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I looked up 'Zeus' in the registry and there is one registered that is div. 3 from 1948, it's not this one.

I have Zeus and Zeus Pink from Buggy Crazy from several years ago, purchased from her business. Here I also have Katinka, at least two of the supposed three Tiger Babies strain, as well as Evina. They really are all different. Similar ideas of spotting, form and color, but side by side all noticeably different in my opinion. I think the Zeus ones are Lisa's, but I am not 100% sure.
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Name: Connie
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Jul 4, 2017 12:34 PM CST

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I don't know if Sally is part of the Tiger Babies group but is also similar, in the orange range, and is larger than my orange TB from Judith. Katinka is definitely smaller and more in the pink range.
Name: Patrick
Midland, Michigan (Zone 6a)
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auratum
Jul 4, 2017 4:24 PM CST
Thanks for the comments!
Name: Joshua
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Jul 4, 2017 5:33 PM CST

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Patrick, not sure if it helps, but this is the 'Tiger Babies' clone we have here in Australia:

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Tends to go more pink over time (note that the first photo is not the same flower as the second and third).
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Name: Joe
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Joebass
Jul 6, 2017 10:56 AM CST
I know that there are a few clones from the same cross but can anyone confirm that tiger babies is a strain. Given its lack of fertility that just doesn't make sense to me. I know of Tigerbabies, Evina, and katinka.
I've heard of Zeus as I think that @buggycrazy used it in her hybriding but not sure if it's the same cross.
Name: Joshua
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Jul 6, 2017 5:06 PM CST

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It's not a strain but a grex - a group of similar-looking siblings from the same cross.
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