Hostas forum: Is this Hosta Virus X? Or iron deficiency?

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Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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crawgarden
Jul 20, 2017 8:59 PM CST
I agree
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
Utah (Zone 7a)
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SpringGreenThumb
Jul 21, 2017 5:46 PM CST
http://www.perennialnursery.co...


Ann gave me that link.

It's Chris from Hallson Talking to me about this Great Expectations Hosta
Name: aud/odd
Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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Cinta
Jul 21, 2017 9:41 PM CST
@SpringGreenThumb,

He is the man. I think too many people panic about this disease and are throwing away plants out of panic. It is sad to see this happening,
Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
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ViolaAnn
Jul 22, 2017 7:00 PM CST
The bottom line is to learn about HVX and be careful. If you have a diseased plant it's not something that you want to keep but in the short term, it's not going to do any damage as long as you have developed good garden hygiene habits. And Chris is one of the real experts on HVX.
Ann

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Name: aud/odd
Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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Cinta
Jul 23, 2017 10:56 AM CST
@ViolaAnn, I agree it is one of the hosta garden problems we should be careful. What happened though was it went to panic back in the early 2000 as was appropriate, The industry worked on the problem because it was bad for business. There is certainly less incidents. I just think we have not moved to the careful and still in the 17 yrs ago panic. I was so paranoid I did not buy another hosta for 10 yrs.

Newbys do not know that hostas can look like HE&& when we hit summer heat no rain for weeks Heck I look diseased in this heat. But they are looking for that beautiful Spring weather look 3 months ago and think their plant is diseased. Especially if they are not growing them in no sun dark shade (my conditions). Trust me 90 degrees, no rain with even 2 hrs of sun make hostas look sick. At that point they hit the panic button and end up killing a good plant.

A plant they could have grown to maturity that would have been beautiful for yrs of beautiful Spring enjoyment. To my eyes there is nothing prettier than a mature Hosta. Green Grin!
Utah (Zone 7a)
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SpringGreenThumb
Aug 1, 2017 4:20 PM CST
A picture of the Hosta after a couple weeks of trace minerals, ironite, and Epsom salts.


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Luckily, I have irrigation Sprinkler system so I am not dependent on rainfall. The rich blue is returning. It has almost recovered completely. It's beautiful. I'm glad I didn't destroy this very lovely Hosta.
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Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
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ViolaAnn
Aug 1, 2017 8:01 PM CST
I'm a bit concerned about some of the things you've said. More magnesium via Epsom Salts often helps the hostas, but you don't usually see IMMEDIATE results in leaves that have already opened out. It's more of a long-term improvement that takes place. Might have just been the way the leaves looked when they unfurled.
Ann

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Utah (Zone 7a)
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SpringGreenThumb
Aug 3, 2017 1:02 AM CST
Possibly....

I don't know. All I did was follow your advise plus Chris's advise..... now the Hosta is looking much better.

As long as its looking more healthy and beautiful I'm not concerned.... I'm quite happy. 😊🌺❤️
Utah (Zone 7a)
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SpringGreenThumb
Aug 3, 2017 1:09 AM CST
I am not a Hosta professional (Only 12 months experience) so I cannot explain with any certainty what was... is... or might be going on with this plant.
Name: aud/odd
Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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Cinta
Aug 3, 2017 11:05 PM CST
I do not know how quick epsom salt works with hostas but when I was growing Brugmansias they told me to add epsom salt and it was within a week the leaves were greened up.
Utah (Zone 7a)
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SpringGreenThumb
Aug 4, 2017 1:29 AM CST
The first time I was introduced to Epsom salts for plants was when I planted some corn plants that would not grow taller or green up.

When the Nursery woman told me to put Epsom salts on them I did. In just a few days the corn plants started to grow and green up.

Also I had some dayliles I salted and their color started to return within a week.
Name: aud/odd
Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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Cinta
Aug 4, 2017 10:33 AM CST
I love epsom salt. I throw it around the gardens every Spring. I have two rose bushes that get a cup spread around them in the Spring. They keep the rabbits and deer away for a few days.

I remember a discussion on GW about the Lakeside breeder either used Epsom Salt or her soil had that chemical make up that made "Lakeside Black Satin" so dark. So my hosta garden also gets a dose of epsom salt along with composted leaves every Spring.

The subject comes up often about Lakeside Black Satin so if you do a search on GW it comes up often and what results others have had. I can say it works for me.
Utah (Zone 7a)
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SpringGreenThumb
Aug 5, 2017 12:23 AM CST
Why have I never thought of that?

I have only used it when I need a desperate fix. I never thought of sprinkling it around as a prevention.

Name: aud/odd
Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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Cinta
Aug 5, 2017 10:26 AM CST
I think of it as part of my twice a year fertilization. I also sprinkle Miracle-GroMiracid, and coffee ground.

Because I get free coffee and I had a serious slug problem it works for me. This is unused coffee because I read it is the caffine that interrupts their nervous system.

If I could just come up with a animal permanent fix I could have a good Hosta garden again. *Blush*
Utah (Zone 7a)
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SpringGreenThumb
Aug 5, 2017 12:01 PM CST
I'm still trying to plan where some of my Hosta's permanent growing spot will be.
Name: aud/odd
Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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Cinta
Aug 5, 2017 12:59 PM CST
Are you doing hosta garden/shade or are you mixing them in different Perennial beds around your property?

I moved here a couple of years ago and I was trying to set up just a shade garden in one area with Hostas, and shade plants but the majority of Hostas. I have about a hundred but as I have said I do not buy hostas that look exactly as one I have. I am selective what Hosta I buy. Ten foot rule for me.

I do have some of my perennial gardens that I use hostas as ground cover because I do not like mulch and we have a bad termite problem in my city so we try not to use wood ground cover.
Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
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ViolaAnn
Aug 5, 2017 9:08 PM CST
SpringGreenThumb said:I'm still trying to plan where some of my Hosta's permanent growing spot will be.


Let me know if you ever figure that out. nodding Big Grin

If they would all grow at even rates it wouldn't be so challenging, but just when you think you've got it figured out, one will take off and grow a lot and all of a sudden they are crowded.
Ann

Pictures of all my hostas, updated annually and tracked since 2008 begin at: https://violaann.smugmug.com/G...
Utah (Zone 7a)
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SpringGreenThumb
Aug 5, 2017 10:37 PM CST
Lol. Ann. 😂

I'm doing multiple shade/hosta gardens under the trees in various places through out my yard. Adding a few Heuchera, lilies, and tulips.


Intermittently there will be sun gardens in the sunny places.
Utah (Zone 7a)
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SpringGreenThumb
Aug 6, 2017 12:27 AM CST
And hakone grass

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