Sempervivum and Jovibarba forum: Sempervivum 'Jenny'

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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jul 5, 2017 10:26 AM CST

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A discussion thread for Sempervivum 'Jenny'. Let the talk begin. Hurray!

springcolor said:
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This came with the name Jenny but no references to a semp of this name so really a noid but a beauty.


Julia what was your source of 'Jenny'?
springcolor said:It came from molbacks who gets semps from the same source as Jo Ann. This semp grows like a weed and the rains don't bother it. A favorite of mine and like Jo Ann will be keeping the name as its my Daughter in laws name. Just for my collection.


ricos said:Julia I have Jenny also but she is not blue gray as the pic. She is blue green flat with dark very pointed tips and gets really big. She has been very consistently that way for 30 years that I know of. As far as I am concerned the fact that there is "no reference" (I presume that means reference from North Hills"???) does not necessarily make her a NOID. If any of us thinks that the North Hills effort was able to capture every single Semp in existence at that time we would be dillusional. There was a man in Chehalis Wa.
breeding Semps in the 50's, 60's and 70's maybe as early as the 40s but I'm not sure on that. I don't think any of his made it to North Hills as Semps were not his primary interest. I have also heard rumors of a woman in Elma who used to breed some new varieties just in her home garden. There are several semps listed on our data base as well as Sempervivum Liste as "unknown origin". Danji is one that comes to mind. Yet it is still Danji not NOID.
Perhaps it would be appropriate for me to ask: Just exactly what is the process for introducing a new semp today and what was the process 50 years ago before cell phones and the internet when small nurseries grew and bred their own plants for their local customers and never heard of Helen Payne? All this is probably in Kevin's book.. can't wait! In the mean time my Jenny is staying Jenny.


Jo Ann I'm not sure what North Hills has to do with Jenny? What was your source of 'Jenny'?
Name: Julia
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springcolor
Jul 5, 2017 10:50 AM CST
Molbak's is a big local nursery and the only info they have is the source, which is Wayne's wholesale nursery down by Olympia. Jo Ann has connections there so maybe she would ask.
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jul 5, 2017 5:24 PM CST

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Jo Ann, can you check the information Wayne has?
Name: Jo Ann
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ricos
Jul 5, 2017 9:14 PM CST
Yes I will for sure do that. I am also going to talk to my friend who took over Herb Dickson's nursery. She used to have all his records but moved to Spokane and may have eliminated all but the primula. He bred primula, dodecatheon and anything else with pollen but his real love was the primula. I saw some of his semps years ago but wasn't that interested then...Silly me.. I will also try to find out about the person in Elma if that story is true. But all this will have to wait till I get back from Texas on the 18th. I am making red currant jelly tomorrow. Fri is get ready for market Sat and Sun and finish getting ready to leave at 1.20 am on Mon. Sure hope i can sleep in the Aero Porter van.
We'll get to the bottom of this. There is still that beauty called incorrectly Grandiflora Keaston. It has no fuzz. I would really like to find out about it too.
Pittonii Montanum has been fixed. The correct name is pittonii x montanum and SMG carries it. So any of you who got it from me can now take it out of the NOID bed and put the x back in the name.
Name: Patty
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Patty
Jul 5, 2017 10:33 PM CST
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Name: Jo Ann
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ricos
Jul 7, 2017 11:30 AM CST
Ok so I got some pics of Jenny on I phone. Let's see how they look here
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Well these pics are rediculous. Yes she does get a bit of pink in the center in the summer...just like Silverine and Metalicum but she is not this washed out blue white that this pic shows. I have to move the pics too many times to get them from i phone to here. This will change shortly.....
I wonder if the pink center could be a clue to some of her genetics. Basic overall shape and size is like Silverine too. hmmmmm
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jul 7, 2017 12:00 PM CST

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It looks very similar to Julia's photo, just different growing conditions.
Julia can you take us some more photos similar in set up like Jo Ann's?

Jo Ann, I find that some semps are hard to get a photo of what the eye actually sees in colors. Nice semp.
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gg5
Jul 7, 2017 8:00 PM CST
Looks nearly identical to me, which isn't surprising since you're both getting them from the same source. It tells me Malbaks keeps track of their labels Thumbs up
I tip my hat to you.

Name: Julia
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springcolor
Jul 7, 2017 8:04 PM CST
Ok here is more Jenny pictures.
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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jul 7, 2017 10:35 PM CST

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That is very pretty Julia. I see what Jo Ann means about her photo colors after seeing yours. Thumbs up
Name: Jo Ann
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ricos
Jul 8, 2017 7:53 PM CST
Those are great pics Julia but again neither of us is getting the color quite right. I now have a new mission/passion....photos that reflect the true color. Yes we both have the same cultivar which came from the same source. Next step is to find out where he got it from. It seems yours is not going pink in the center like Silverine and Metalicum. I am thinking that the pink is the result of the FULL sun that mine are subjected to this season. I don't think I have ever seen Silverine get pink in the center and it is doing that here this year. I don't remember pink in the center of Jenny either.
Malbacks is a very good Garden Center.

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