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Southern Ontario, Canada
Avgardener95
Jul 6, 2017 12:38 AM CST
This is my third year gardening but on a new property and this year and I am having trouble getting anything to grow. I'm curious to know if anyone can give on advice as to anything that could be done to help improve my garden this year. In Southern Ontario, where I am, we've had an extremely wet summer: during a particularly hard storm we received over 100mm of rain in one day, and the rest of this summer has followed suit. It has also been below seasonal temperatures this year so far only being in the mid 20's C or low 70's F. I am working an area of about 25ft by 80 ft and growing a large variety of plants in 8'x10' patches, from tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers corn carrots, berries and all the way to pumpkins and am not seen hardly any growth in anything. A garden half the size was grown in this location last year with much success, and the garden was doubled this year and 15 cubic yards of top soil, a cubic yard of horse manure and 2 cubic yards of sand were spread over the whole garden, old section and new, and tilled thoroughly into the ground before planting. The preexisting soil in the expanded section was very clay rich and poorly drained. I've turned to buying some triple mix and digging 2 foot deep and wide wholes and filling with triple mix before transplanting but have still not seen success. I haven't fertilized yet as I thought the manure would be enough. Most of my plants look sickly in places with yellowing or browning withering leaves near the bottom and are not much taller than a foot. Some such as tomatoes have flower or fruit in a few places but are no where near as big as they should be and . Any advice on how to improve my garden is greatly appreciated. I realize I may just have a bad year for weather on my hand but any mistakes I've made I can fix and any improvements I could make would be great. Thanks
Name: Yardenman
Maryland (Zone 7a)
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Yardenman
Jul 6, 2017 12:47 AM CST
Avgardener95 said:This is my third year gardening but on a new property and this year and I am having trouble getting anything to grow. I'm curious to know if anyone can give on advice as to anything that could be done to help improve my garden this year. In Southern Ontario, where I am, we've had an extremely wet summer: during a particularly hard storm we received over 100mm of rain in one day, and the rest of this summer has followed suit. It has also been below seasonal temperatures this year so far only being in the mid 20's C or low 70's F. I am working an area of about 25ft by 80 ft and growing a large variety of plants in 8'x10' patches, from tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers corn carrots, berries and all the way to pumpkins and am not seen hardly any growth in anything. A garden half the size was grown in this location last year with much success, and the garden was doubled this year and 15 cubic yards of top soil, a cubic yard of horse manure and 2 cubic yards of sand were spread over the whole garden, old section and new, and tilled thoroughly into the ground before planting. The preexisting soil in the expanded section was very clay rich and poorly drained. I've turned to buying some triple mix and digging 2 foot deep and wide wholes and filling with triple mix before transplanting but have still not seen success. I haven't fertilized yet as I thought the manure would be enough. Most of my plants look sickly in places with yellowing or browning withering leaves near the bottom and are not much taller than a foot. Some such as tomatoes have flower or fruit in a few places but are no where near as big as they should be and . Any advice on how to improve my garden is greatly appreciated. I realize I may just have a bad year for weather on my hand but any mistakes I've made I can fix and any improvements I could make would be great. Thanks


Triple mix plus sand sounds pretty good. It might be the horse manure. That stuff can burn plant roots unless VERY well aged. Just a thought.

Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Jul 6, 2017 7:12 AM CST
Over a 25 x 80 foot area, i think, a yard of manure, was spread perrty thin. I'm i right ?
Was it aged or fresh ?
The plants in holes you dug with triple mix arnt burning, or doing any better. I'm i Right ?
What's left ??? TEMPS AND RAIN !
You didn't mention your normal, highs and lows ? What are low temps, you have been having this year ?
In f. Please.
Your highs, this year in low 70s.f.
So, i'm gonna guess, your lows this year, have been in the 40s or 50s f.
I'm gonna say, the Summer veges are struggling to stay alive, with those kind of lows.
If your still not sure. Please answer my above questions. It will give us more to work with.
Lets, also pray for warmer weather ! Thumbs up
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Anything i say, could be misrepresented, or wrong.
Name: Robyn
Minnesota (Zone 4a)
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robynanne
Jul 6, 2017 8:32 AM CST
I'm in MN - which has been having very similar weather. The plants have managed to grow OK in spite of that here... If they grew OK in the same spot last year, I'm guessing they are getting enough sun. Same seeds as last year?

The mix you use sounds maybe a little light in the nutrients. If the manure wasn't already composted manure, then it needs to compost before the plants can use it for food. Is there a university or something nearby that you could bring in a soil sample (or 8) in to for testing? That should give you clear answers on the mix you used.
Southeast OK (Zone 7b)
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KarenHolt
Jul 6, 2017 8:48 PM CST
These plants have too much water for the temps you are having. Let nature do the work. It is spring conditions for them right now. They will shoot up when temps get warmer. To help with the wetness, build rows. That will give them a chance to get some dryness. You can build the soil around the plants until you have a row.
Everyone is having a late spring it seems. We just had the end of ours this weekend. Usually we are in the hundreds by now. Our 90s come June 1st and it gets hotter by the day until the end of August. We also never have rain in June and July. This weekend we had our last spring rain. And it did damage. But hot weather is here and all will be well. Just build the rows and hang in there.

Eta: your plants do need fertilizer, but they are having problems and right now you need to fix your wet ground issues. I would build they rows then once the plants were on the mend, fertlize.
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Name: Anne Harai
Snohomish, WA (Zone 8a)
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NWgirl
Jul 7, 2017 8:54 AM CST
I've been using kelp fertilizer overall, combined with compost, with good results. Also, I'm using the whey from leftover cheesemaking on acid loving plants like tomatoes, which seems to increase overall yield when you pour it at the base of each plant.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
RpR
Jul 7, 2017 9:03 PM CST
They say singing to your plants helps them grow so try this song and see what happens:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

What we're gonna do right here is go back, way back, back into time.
When the only people that existed were troglodytes...
Cave men, cave women, Neanderthal, troglodytes.
Let's take the average cave man at home, listening to his stereo.
Sometimes he'd get up, try to do his thing.
He'd begin to move, something like this,
"Dance...dance".

When he got tired of dancing alone, he'd look in the mirror,
"Gotta find a woman, gotta find a woman, gotta find a woman, gotta find a woman".
He'd go down to the lake where all the women would be swimming or washing clothes or something.
He'd look around and just reach in and grab one.
"Come here...come here".
He'd grab her by the hair.
You can't do that today, fellas, 'cause it might come off.
You'd have a piece of hair in your hand and she'd be swimming away from you (Ha, ha)

This one woman just lay there, wet and frightened.
He said: "Move... Move".
She got up, she was a big woman, big woman.
Her name was Bertha, Bertha Butt, she was one of the Butt sisters.
He didn't care. He looked up at her and said,
"Sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me
Sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me!".

She looked down on him.
She was ready to crush him, but she began to like him.
She said, "I'll sock it to ya, Daddy".
He said, "Wha?".
She said, "I'll sock it to ya, Daddy".
You know what he said? He started it way back then
I wouldn't lie to you
When she said, "I'll sock it to ya, Daddy"
He said "Right on! Right on! Hotpants! Hotpants! Ugh... Ugh... Ugh".

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